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No one really builds the SOHC especially the older 8 valve heads which share nothing in common with their 16v SOHC counter parts unfortunately. So if you were to build something, it would be a lot more custom than a DOHC setup if doing a turbo build for those power goals. What I mean by custom is ...

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No, better off finding the right block to suit the transmission.

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If you are wanting to shave some weight off, you are stuck with that flywheel. Where as on the narrowblocks you can use the aftermarket options available for those flywheels whether it be fwd or awd depending on the trans used. Even a wideblock 6 bolt has the option of running a 4g54b aluminum ...

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I've been looking into this as well. It's a wideblock that shares the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the older blocks.

I'm at the point I'm trying to figure out which g63t harness do I use with it. Generation 1 turbo harness or a generation 2 turbo harness (Evo).

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Be a few weeks to month, but I'll be starting this project back up soon enough!

Need to get some widebody Starion Control arms too

. Another suspension conversion.

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Only need a offset pulley if you use a RWD/SOHC water pump, otherwise most of us just stick with the DOHC pumps that don't require one.

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But what if say, it has a factory luggage rack like my wagon does?

I might throw some pics up later.

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Roof Rack is functional!

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Any progress on the wiring? I know you were hoping to basically make a jumper harness from the DSM engine harness to the S13 chassis harness, and I would love to see if you figured that out.

Any chance your going to the Shootout this year (in 2 weeks!!)?

I am focusing on the engine bay wiring ...

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They aren't cheap! Cost as much as a new turbo lol.

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While I can say "Yes", it will as long as the gearbox matches the block (wideblock or narrowblock), I suggest you read up on this page

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http://projectzerog.com/transmissions.shtml

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If possible, one already nodded for a R154 swap, other wise stock is fine.

Don't seem to remember where I put my stock flywheel lol.

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I Need to get down there and cut out that piece of metal I need from you.

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I would have said best bet is on GalantVR4.org

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The same years apply to Trucks with the 4G52 or some 4g54s (not 4g54b).

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5 lug swap pretty much done ;). Next step is remove remaining brake and fuel lines in the engine bay, wash out, clean, and start prepping the bay for the motor. Pickup gas pedal bolted up perfectly, just need to bend the rod a little to have full swing. Already took measurements for the new brake ...

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You wouldn't, but he is answering your question about clutch stuff and starter. Clutch disc & PP don't care what motor you use, starter should work fine as long as it's a manual trans starter and not from a automatic. Tooth count difference on a flexplate vs a flywheel.

Like mentioned above, You ...

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Ever so slowly starting to get back to work on this...just picked up a set of 5lug starion hubs, calipers, knuckles and widebody struts (until I can get ahold of flatty ones) to finish the 5 lug swap.

Snagged a pickup km132 trans crossmember which looks to be the perfect size with a little ...

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I have a set of Widebody front struts I want to trade for flatty struts.

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3 types of Cam Angle Sensors too, Greentop (Optical) and Blacktop (Hall effect) - both are adjustable, the 97+ style CAS is non-adjustable.

As Screemin said for 95-96, Visually these are the motors that you will not see the "Big" cam sensor on the back of the head, just a plug.

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Sell it

or more progress

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Starions should be 6 bolts as well, 7 bolts didn't come about till the 90s. Over here 7 bolts that may work come from 92-99 DSMs (Eclipse/talon/lasers). FWD flywheels are the about the same size as your stock siggy one, I know fwd 6 bolts are 110 teeth on the ring gear, but not sure about the 7s ...

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More pics Gabe!

I know your along much further!

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I was referring to if you swapped a Hydraulic setup into a car other than a Starion, you missed that part where I noted that Starions are Hydraulic Setups and the Pickups are cable.
Thus why you aren't finding anything about this being an issue.

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I never got around to installing it, but it's for complete standalone use, not piggy back with the Stock ECU.

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If it's a 4g64, it should be a wideblock, but neither one really limits you if you go the bill Hincher made Bellhousing route, but if your thinking factory bolt on you need a wideblock transmission, either the one out of the pickup or a Starquest one, however pickups use cable clutch and Starions ...

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It depends on your power goals for what transmission setup, but if you want least custom work, a R154 is not apart of your plans then, I'm sure someone else can fill you in there as I'm not too knowledgeable on the Starquests for rear end strengths.

Example of custom work,my 76 Galant 1.6l g32 rear ...

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Well Starions don't exist past 89 so I'm not sure where you got Pre-93 from.

It's not a matter of 6 bolt/7 bolt for mounting, it's that as US Starquests never came with 4g63s, so you use the pickup mounts from a truck that had g63/g64 in them. The brackets for the g52/g54 trucks are the same as the ...

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Even though I said it's not too common, because in most cases you reach over an average amount of miles and bearings haven't failed, you should be good. The 7 bolts that were known for problems over here in the states were, '95-96 blocks. 97 autos had revised thrust bearings, 98+ had all revised ...

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Crankwalk isn't as common as people made it out to be. 97+ 7 bolts had the revised thrust bearings. Disable the neutral safety switch, so you don't need to push the clutch in to fire it up, it will help prevent unnecessary load on the thrust bearing, which can lead to bearing failure/crankwalk.

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still available.

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1 of those pumps is probably the G52 to think of it, ASA doesn't really clarify on that. The gears are relatively cheap and if you think $140 is expensive for a g63 oil pump...lol, A OEM Mitsu oil pump is going to run you at least $200, without gears, over $300 with.

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ASA shows from 86 onward there are 3 different part #s for 2L pumps.

Part# for whenever your vehicle was built.

MD102414 - 1 May 1986 thru 3 Oct 1986

MD102415 - 1 Nov 1986 thru 3 Apr 1987

MD170854 - 1 May 1987 thru 3 May 1989

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need to make some adjustments to fix this, we don't want to have to cut through the cross beam sections. It can actually sit lower than this if we remove the stock cross member which is supporting the trans to allow the car to remain mobile in the shop. Plan is to angle the motor just a tiny bit to ...

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high def pictures later.

Cutting the the trans hump out, that was my only problem since the KM110 is much smaller than the R154 and even a KM132 at that lol.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/314101_10151263064890336_484487391_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/581356 ...

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R154 is mounted finally!

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Yes they are lol, they are just the wheels that came with the axle, more than likely I'm going to be running Widebody starion 16s or some 15s.. Fronts, need starion hubs and struts to finish the 5 lug conversion. Who knows, maybe you will see her again at next year's shootout if I can make the drive ...

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brake/clutch pedal assembly and Gas pedal assembly

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I was going to run MS because I always wanted to, but I'm leaning back towards link, I'd be hard pressed to find someone local that can help with tuning on MS. Evo ECU is an idea, but that would add to parts, because I would need a Evo Ecu + jumper harness to make it a plug n play ordeal.

The Red ...

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FP Red

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Turbo arrives this weekend hopefully! It's starting to pick up pace again.

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If this is still available, I will be interested and be willing to take the PP too.

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http://www.starquestclub.com/forum/inde ... opic=93109

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Yes I have a FRH intake manifold I would like too use . Is there a good brake booster dealeat kit with like a willwood master cylinder out there ? Or what other booster I could use that's smaller and move the eng foreword 2" and clear it?

You probably won't find any "kits" to delete the booster ...

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There are couple things you could do, like using a aftermarket intake manifold, finding a different booster to use, or like what I'm doing (not on quest though) converting to manual brakes which eliminates the booster altogether, but that itself leaves more to be done (Single Master Cylinder, Dual ...

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Updated price!

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EVOMINUS wrote:If its an earlier motor(better) and he says its a destroker then the block should read 4GCS which is the 6 bolt version of the 2.4!4G64 is the 7 bolt version

4g64s came in both flavors, you can find 6 bolt 4g64s in 91/92 Mitsubishi Expos.

G4CS is just the Hyaundai designation.

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for 6g72 info
http://6g72rwd.forumcircle.com/index.php

If you read up on the homepage here, the only issues you really have with the DOHC heads are clearances at the rear of the head and the firewall for the CAS and thermostat housing. Some people just "massage" the firewall with a hammer or ...

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Decided to go a different route, it's a complete ECU with the MAPDaddy 4 bar map sensor built in and it is the older style that requires splicing the MS harness to the stock harness if you plan to use the stock g63t engine harness. Never been installed and had it built about 4 years ago.
$300 ...

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the ones that will sit parallel to the head are off a 4g37, no part number listed on ASA. Find a 4g37 powered vehicle, such as a '89 DSM (Flat hood, no camshaft bulge), or Galant, or whatever else came fitted with that motor.

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