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Ninja fast reply.

That sucks RE the head, but as you say it's all easy from now after getting in fitted and running.

Sounds like you have some lumpy cams in there?

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How's the car running now, all good?

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A bit of an update.

I've now got my build engine, should make some good progress now...

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-02.jpg

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/install/final-build/engine-01.jpg

Shit loads has happened in the last year, but nothing ...

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Hello,

It's been over 3 years since I updated this thread, in the time not a lot has happened until the last month or two.
I decided that the engine bay needed a freshen up, so I stripped everything out and had a go myself and then lost interest, so a year later it went to the body shop on a 'do it ...

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I'm sorry I've only just seen this Bill, terribly sad.

Best wishes,
Jezz.

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Here you go Tony, fixed that for you.

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Bill Hincher wrote:yeah, I can build it,
I am kinda on call right now, my wife has started Chemo for her cancer, there is no cure, we hope to get the cancer in remission and she is pretty scared

Really sorry to see this Bill, best wishes to you both.

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LOL, no that's true.

Things have worked out well, just progressing slowly but have never come to a complete halt. Just had a few other things to do.

What do you make of the E8 Vs 64 block bolt patterns, are they consistent with the 64 block over the pond?

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heyJezz I miss your company >;o)

last time we talked ( 2 years ago now) I was working on your shifter
did you finish the car? did you race it?

Not many do, I'm flattered. :)

Surely wasn't that long ago?
Not finished no, though there is an event in July that I hope the car will be at.

My ...

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Hi Bill,

How the devil are you? Well I hope. :)

Tony has asked me to host a picture of the two crap guards from the 64 and e8 blocks to show the bolt hole alignment.

E8 on top of the 64 (64 narrow block I presume?)

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/200sx/evo-swap/billhousing/e8-64-plates.jpg

Cheers ...

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Sick build man i been checking your progress and it's getting there. my evo engine swap is taking a while too and i have to finish it before MOD (mitsubishi owners day) and were not even half way done :(...........Good Job bro

Did you get yours done?

Needless to say i've got little to update, I ...

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thats an aim sport mxl, isn't it? did you get the base model or the pista or the pro? I've been planning on getting the pista for a while now. have you used race studio? how do you like it? how many speed inputs will you be using?

It's an AIM Strada MXL, the base model with limited/no logging ...

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Ok, looking back over the thread the stuff below is the stuff you don't know about.

The state of play now is that the engine mounting is complete, and the new engine is fundamentally built.
Before the new engine goes in, what remains is pipework (intake, exhaust and coolant), engine loom and a good ...

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Any updates on the silvia swap? Pictures / videos etc?

Hi,

Well I guess a fair amount has happened since I last updated the thread, but no where near as much as I'd have liked for one reason or another.
What has been happening has happened so slowly there's never been much to report in one go ...

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That's a good question, one to which I don't know the answer to. Sorry.
I'm more than happy for the debate to ensue here.

I expect with good mounts you'll not have too much problem (assuming it is a problem).

Which raises the question, are there any aftermarket poly mounts for the r154?

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Here's a low res 'phone picture of the finished gearbox mount that Steve has just sent to me.

That should do the job.

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Thanks Bill. :)

The flange to the head is of particular interest.
And a general one each of the top and bottom would be good.

Sorry to be awkward, but could you hold a tape measure against them, so I can get an idea of dimension?

Does the plenum go straight to the head, or is there an ...

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Bill Hincher wrote: Its a long story , but its been a tough winter, we thought my wife may have had brain cancer , she will need surgury but we think its just a cyst in her jaw at this time

Whoa! Sorry to hear this.
I hope it all works out ok, Bill.

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Hello. :)

Steve and I have been working on the gearbox mount on and off for a week or so. we just trial fitted it and it's looking good.

Next weekend I should have pics of the finished article and possibly some of the engine mounts. Rather than hack around with the Starion mounts using spacers etc ...

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Quick update.

Not much to report again, the gearbox brace has been designed and semi-fabricated.
Should get this done by the end of the week.

I've been suffering from a cold so have spent the time productively by organising a list of goodies for the engine build.

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whats going on jezz?

Hi Bill,

Not a lot, snow, ice and temperatures between -9 and 0 have been putting me off entering the garage.
I have been sorting some old CA stuff and getting it sold though so I can invest in some 4G bits.

I spent a bit of time looking at the gearbox mount at the weekend ...

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Awesome, thanks for the pics. I know what I'm going to be working with soon, now.

No prob, hopefully have some more soon for you. :)

I'm tossing a 64 wide and FC3S TII Trans into a 91 liftback S13.

Cool, AFAIK that box is a fair bit longer so shouldn't have as much grief with shifter ...

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tonyg64 wrote:looking good jez now if i could get bill to do me a C4 bell to fit mine

Tony

If I say I've broke the r154, he'll make me a free one.

This is Tony BTW folks, I was planning on introducing him later when engine things begin to happen.

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Jezz, can you show us more about how you're mounting this motor? This is highly relevant to my interests.

Yes, of course. :)
What is your project?

Steve visited again today, like any good wise man he came bearing gifts. :)
Namely some spacers for the LHS mount and a plate for the RHS, all made ...

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My word is always good Jezz, are you talking about the getrag?

I don't doubt that. :)
Yes the getrag 233 - it looks a bit awkward as there doesn't appear to be a 'dry' removable bellhousing.
The big power supra boys seem to get on well with them.

did you see the work I put into the remote ...

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Gah, I thought you'd have a GT55 powered cunning plan for that block, Bill. :D

Not allowed >;o) my intesity is too great.my body get addicted to its own adrenalin ( true story) it took years to come down from racing last time

LOL, better than being hooked on crystalmeth though I suppose ...

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Love this project.

A fast Yugo, who'd have thought!

I'm amazed the Yugo got as far west as the UK, let alone to the US.

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Gah, I thought you'd have a GT55 powered cunning plan for that block, Bill. :D

The gen1 head sounds interesting for sure, but I'll stick with the Evo head as I have 2 and they are the right way around. Besides Evos are generally not shy at making silly power. :)
What box shall I fix when I get ...

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Interesting.

The problem with that is that the exh and intake are on the wrong sides to the Evo setup and the S13 chassis. The floor pan is recessed for the exhaust, and all of my kit is setup for that way round.

What made you buy a new E9 block, do you have an evil plan?

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Big power/high flow, I guess.
Theoretically shorter runners are better for bigger power, though at the dertiment of low revs torque.

The runners are not quite as short as that as one of these goes between the head and plenum. It was one of these that we were planning in modifying to take the evo ...

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No, it's an Evo 8 head.
I was hoping to use my old custom CA plenum and make an adaptor intermedary manifold using a bit of CA intake setup and the flange from an Evo plenum.
But due to it being a bit awkward to do, and there not being enough room as the 4G is upright (CA was angled); it's not an ...

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Yeah it's winter here, bloody miserable too. Though probably drier than our summer, just colder.

The plan is to get it on the road around march/april, but there's a lot to do.
Plenum/Manifold are my biggest concerns at the minute and this from experience can take ages to resolve.

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how kooooooooooooowl is that .;o)

Cool enough. :)

The mount spacers for the LHS (to centralise the engine to the tunnel) and the adaptor plate for the other side have been made, so should get it mounted properly at the weekend.
Will also endeavour to get the gearbox on and some sort of bracketry ...

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jezz_s13 wrote:
Anyway, I have a knackered (crankwalked) E4 lump which I'm using for all of the fabrication work.

Just for the fab.

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Hi,

I've been loitering long enough with no action, so yesterday I actually made a start on my conversion, and today a friend (we'll call him Steve from now on :)) came round to help.

The plan is to fit a stroked/forged Evo 4G with Toyota R154 into the S13.
The engine is an E6 block, E8 head with ...

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That looks the business, Bill.

When will you be able ship it?

Is the 'shit guard' included in the kit?
I'll mail you about payment, and I think I have some other questions about bits etc.

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Any update on this bill?

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Funnily enough, I spent last weekend in London doing that kind of thing; though art gallaries.
It's a funny old place london.

When are you coming over?
I fancy a visit to the science and natural history museums.

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Nice, the prospect of getting the housing is making me salivate.

The exhaust must be a bit of a bind with LHD cars, thought certainly needs to be put in to avoid the steering components etc. But CAs/SRs/KAs/RBs etc are all 'backwards' and people use them.

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Excellent, thanks.

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Looking good.

How long is it likely to be before you can get one of the new castings machined?

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I expect my car wil be the same setup at Thao's, both UK and NZ are RHD.
The exhaust manifold isn't too much of an issue as it will be a custom anyway.

Out of interest, can you get pictures of Thao's?

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Is there any update on these, Bill?

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Ah right ok, cool. :)
Thanks for the reply.

Do the 2g guys normally just do as I've suggested? Make a plate to mount to the 3 holes and weld/bolt the bracket to that?

In a way it might be an advantage to make a plate anyway as I can use it to move the mount to where I need it to line up with the ...

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Hi,

I'm using an Evo 4G for my swap and have just received my motor mount brackets ( 2 x MD041030).
One of these is fine for one side of the block, but the other side needs a plate making and then the mount welding to it.

Is this just an issue with the Evo block or is usual to have to do this, or ...

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Lovely!

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Bill Hincher wrote:It was long and hard on me ,jezz............kinda like 3rd grade
when I deliver this to you , could you direct me to some museums there?

When are you coming over?
Tried to go to a museum the other day, couldn't get in as everyone else decided to go the day i went.

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That's brilliant Bill.

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there was an old man at the edge of a mountian digging with a shovel, a young man came along and asked the old man, what are you doing?, the old man looked down at the boy and said ' I am moving the mountian'

The young man looked at this strange old man and retorted 'ridiculous! he replied, 'you ...

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Bill Hincher wrote:I am on schedule to send it to the casting shp next week I am sorry I cant post pic's it seems my web host is not working properly

Excellent, thanks for the update.

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