84' Nissan 200sx turbo 4G63 swap

SWVADR!FT · Post by **SWVADR!FT** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:38 am

Hey guys i'm new to the forums but i've talked to a few of you on AIM.

But for those of you that i haven't talked to the new project I plan on building is a 4G powered 240sx.

SWVADR!FT · Post by **SWVADR!FT** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:58 am

Plans have changed since I posted last, i've sold the Talon that I was going to use the motor out of and instead of getting the 240 shell I was going to get I picked up a 84' Nissan 200sx turbo. The plans are still the same if I can find a good 4G cheap enough to start pilling up parts for.

Here are a few pics of the car.

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Sun May 13, 2007 12:44 pm

Looks like a nice candidate for a 4g

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What kind of trans are you planning to use?

SWVADR!FT · Post by **SWVADR!FT** » Sun May 13, 2007 1:06 pm

More then likely either the w-58 or r-154

It's already got a strong rear end so that won't be an issue.

It's basically gonna be, custom motor mounts, oil pan, intake manifold, the cooling system, and the wiring and it should be alright.

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:24 pm

SWVADR!FT wrote:More then likely either the w-58 or r-154

It's already got a strong rear end so that won't be an issue.

It's basically gonna be, custom motor mounts, oil pan, intake manifold, the cooling system, and the wiring and it should be alright.

dont forget about the thermostat housing which could turn out to be the biggest bitch of them all.

SWVADR!FT · Post by **SWVADR!FT** » Sun May 13, 2007 2:43 pm

Yeah I was including that in the cooling system part.

But i'm just gonna start compiling parts and have everything ready so that when I take the CA18ET out the 4G will be ready to drop in.

flatblackdime · Post by **flatblackdime** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:30 pm

Figured someone would finally do a 4G in a nissan. I too am doing one in my 240sx. Based on the large number of measurements I took the 4G63 will sit in almost the exact place a KA24E would. Just use the mighty max brackets and stock 240sx motor mounts. You'll want to modify the pan a bit as its a tight fit and the sump on the oilpan hangs below the crossmember.

So what are you doing for suspension on the 200sx? I'll try and dig up some photo's of my roommate's old 200sx we 'setup' for ~$150

dsmpual · Post by **dsmpual** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:05 pm

Thats the car hes talking about. Suspension setup actually cost about 100 bucks. PM me if you interested i guess?

SWVADR!FT · Post by **SWVADR!FT** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:09 pm

Well for now the car has KYB struts and sport springs, later on down the road i'm gonna be doing the s13/s14 front suspension upgrade.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue May 15, 2007 5:35 pm

You might want to try to use a RWD pickup truck (2.0 or 2.4) oil pan. The pan is flat and doesn't hang as low. I'll snap some pictures tomorrow so everyone can compare.

isnowi · Post by **isnowi** » Tue May 15, 2007 5:53 pm

DJpowerHaus wrote:You might want to try to use a RWD pickup truck (2.0 or 2.4) oil pan. The pan is flat and doesn't hang as low. I'll snap some pictures tomorrow so everyone can compare.

Does the RWD pickup pan clear the girdled mains of the 4g63?
I used a pan from an l300 van, in order to have the pan not protrude down past the crossmember, but i found that the pan in its stock condition would not clear the main caps on the DOHC 4g63 because of the girdle between them, i therefore spent a long time modifying it and was never fully happy with the results, if there is a bolt on that clears i woul be most interested to know.

Cheers,
Dan

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue May 15, 2007 6:38 pm

The L300 and the D50 pans are likely the same part.

flatblackdime · Post by **flatblackdime** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:45 am

modifying the pan is cake, I've built a few pans from scratch, its not that hard if you've got some time, basic tools, and a welder.

I'll post pics of what im doing to mine this weekend.

As for your S13 front suspension swap, have you looked into the rear of the S12? If you plan on drifting this car I'd highly recommend getting rid of your 200sx and starting with the tried true drifting solution known as the S13.

The rear of the S12 is a trailing arm setup identical to the Z31 300zx, and the 280ZX as well as being nearly identical to the Datsun 510. Simply put, its garbage. The easiest solution to making it do what you want it to is to use very high spring rates to limit travel back there

You'll also have to move the trailing arm mounting points to achieve a decent alignment if you plan on lowering the car at all.

-Justin

flatblackdime · Post by **flatblackdime** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:50 am

dsmpual wrote:

Thats the car hes talking about. Suspension setup actually cost about 100 bucks. PM me if you interested i guess?

Oh yeah, thats my S13 on the left

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Wed May 16, 2007 5:20 pm

Here is that pic of the oil pans that I promised:

The inside of the RWD pan has much to be desired though:

(My FWD pan is banged up to clear my 240SX crossmember.. I have lowered the car.. or should I say.. raised the crossmember.)

Bigmack · Post by **Bigmack** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:56 am

any updates?