D50 question!?

miniblue89 · Post by **miniblue89** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:02 pm

I am in need of a new engine in my 89 d-50....I have read all about the 4g63t swap and everything but I am still kinda fuzzy on it all.....I have a 2.0 widebody 4g63b in my truck right now and I want to get a new motor to bolt up into it and everythign...I know I will haev to move it up 3 inches but I can do that no problem.....what I also want to know is my tranny is an auto tranny that came stock with it.....how will my tranny hold up to the engine I put in it....I know if the turbo is too big it wont hold up at all.......what are some ideas of what I can do?????? any help would be awesome!!!!! Thanks alot...

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:24 pm

4G63 with a th-350. nuff said

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:17 pm

It's going to be hard to find a 2.0L turbo wideblock that you can just bolt up. If your block is still good you could get a donor 2.0L narrowblock engine and swap everything over to it, put in some fresh rings or something. Freshen that baby up. Run a stock turbo and ECU. It could be fun and the transmission wont totally hate you (but still dont expect it to last forever).

miniblue89 · Post by **miniblue89** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:23 am

I believe my block is good....it smokes cuz the rings are bad but it doesnt knock or anything and it isnt blown.....I was told it would be hard so I am going to get a g63t and put it all on my block and go with it....would I have to get just the rings or a whole engine rebuild kit just to be safe????? Thanks fo rthe reply.

miniblue89 · Post by **miniblue89** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:54 am

if I swap everythign form a g63t will I still haev to move everythign up about 3 inches...I do NOT want to mess with my firewall......if I need to move it up I will seeing as I already have an extra transmission mount and cross member......

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:59 pm

Maybe you could get a 2G head without a sensor on the back and do some modifications so the water outlet is on the front. With these modifications you should be able to keep the engine in the stock location. Might need some brake booster mods too.

Get the whole rebuild kit, you'll need it. You might consider getting some new rings and honing the cylinder bores. It would be good to disassemble EVERYTHING.. every oil gallery plug, the entire oil pump, oil pressure regulator and inspect them for wear. Pack the oil pump with grease when you reassemble it to make priming much easier.. get it all cleaned up and painted too.

tumuchNOS · Post by **tumuchNOS** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:35 am

This thread might be dead, but a friend of mine is doing this using the stock motor mounts (in a D50). The CAS has plenty of room and just like my car he is watering out of the front of the head, with one exception. He took two toyota thermostat outlets and bolted them together so he could run a thermostat. Then he welded it to the head. I have been driving my stuff for about 2 years with an aluminum tube welded to the front of the head with no problems at all. We made a flat plate rear thermostat cover to mount the ECU temp sensor in the stock location so it would read as intended.

Here is a photo of his set up:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136 ... OS/d50.jpg

jeffball610 · Post by **jeffball610** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:34 pm

Do you have any better pics? This one is kinda small and it doesn't show much other than the thermostat housing on the front of the head.

tumuchNOS · Post by **tumuchNOS** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:15 pm

Next time I see him I will get better pics.

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:52 pm

Here are some better pictures of my truck:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0572.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... esized.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0117.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0570.jpg

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:16 am

Dirtboy488 wrote:Here are some better pictures of my truck:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0572.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... esized.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0117.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p66/ ... 0_0570.jpg

hey just so you know those saab intercoolers blow the end tanks out

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:16 pm

Its not a Saab intercooler, but I have already made provisions so that wont happen.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:19 pm

Volvo?

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:54 pm

DJpowerHaus wrote:Volvo?

yeah it is a volvo i was being a smart ass lol.

tumuchNOS · Post by **tumuchNOS** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:02 am

I think those things do pretty well untill you lean on them to much. If anyone has the desire to make it work it is Dirtboy.

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:59 pm

tumuchNOS wrote:I think those things do pretty well untill you lean on them to much. If anyone has the desire to make it work it is Dirtboy.

who the fuck is dirtboy?

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:34 pm

Your worst nightmare........

tumuchNOS · Post by **tumuchNOS** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:09 pm

Dirtboy488 wrote:Your worst nightmare........

Another junkyard RWD DSMer/future soapbox racer, thats who.

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:33 am

tumuchNOS wrote:
Dirtboy488 wrote:Your worst nightmare........

Another junkyard RWD DSMer/future soapbox racer, thats who.

lol heard all about him at lunch today. good luck on the d50 project. plan on going through many sets of tires

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:31 am

I dont think traction will be an issue if that is what you are refering to...

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:52 am

Dirtboy488 wrote:I dont think traction will be an issue if that is what you are refering to...

i know i heard you have full slicks. tlk to some of the other guys that have the same setup as you. they had to go to a full 4 link setup to get it to hook and even then they needed weight in the rear.

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:10 am

I dont know of another truck that is running the same setup as me....and weight has already been taken care of.

peregrine · Post by **peregrine** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:58 am

Dirtboy488 wrote:I dont know of another truck that is running the same setup as me....and weight has already been taken care of.

youll probably need more than that fuel cell. and if you look around on the internet theres a shitload of 4g63 trucks out there. all with traction problems

Dirtboy488 · Post by **Dirtboy488** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:20 pm

All I have ever raced is trucks, and I have never once had traction problem using leafs.

tumuchNOS · Post by **tumuchNOS** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:12 pm

It dosent have slicks, and I doubt anyone else has tried what he is trying. I guess the proof will be in the pudding though, and I am looking forward the the reaction the thing will get. It should make a few people scratch thier heads.