Turbo 350 trans adaptor

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:41 pm

they are Toyota in standard form but can be done with the jegs, Chevy starter, but its much more complex because i have to make the starter plate. i have the source to harden the couplers but I havent sent them out yet

77amc · Post by **77amc** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:01 pm

Just for info for the 'overdrive' crowd, there is a good write-up in Car-craft about the GM 200r4 overdrive trans and it's buildup.
I already have one that used handled a potent 350, so being rebuilt should have no problems with a turbo'd 4g64.

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Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:28 pm

these were built for Pacman, it is the very best Ihave built so far

all the GM side trans bolts have steel inserts US std thread into them, you can double nut them for security, and the starter has a metric 10 125 thread for the starter bolts

because the coupler was buit a bit different I was late on delivery because I spent a lot of time redrawing couplers for the future based on this build

greenghost · Post by **greenghost** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:10 pm

hey anything like this for the powerglides?

NightlifeD50 · Post by **NightlifeD50** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:01 pm

buschur makes the adapters for powerglides

http://www.buschurracing.com/

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:56 pm

Bill's adapter will work with the powerglide, I believe that is what he used for mock-up.

greenghost · Post by **greenghost** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:10 pm

i have one of bill's for the power glide. I was just curious if he done anything new but i'm gonna have to order one of these's for my other project i'm using a 350 trans on.

PacmanDSM · Post by **PacmanDSM** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:06 am

Thanks alot Bill. Your work is greatly appreciated

NightlifeD50 wrote:buschur makes the adapters for powerglides

http://www.buschurracing.com/

Buschur no longer makes the 1g/2g adaptor plates. Only the EVO plate. Atleast thats what he said on EvoM back in Nov 08.

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:02 pm

Bill, I need to know where to send you money for these

Shoot me a pm or give me a call, I called your cell and left a message.

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:39 am

I got your message John,
but I have shut out everything until I complete the T 56 the new intake design and the R 154 for about 20 guys

I am committed/focused

I never take any money until the project is complete, I work alone, if I got hurt or something I couldnt honor the contract and we all know 1 'aw shits' cancels out 100 ' atta bouys'

the R 154 is done, It has to go to casting Monday and get machine tested

I figure two weeks away from building a run of adaptors

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:19 am

Bill Hincher wrote:I got your message John,
but I have shut out everything until I complete the T 56 the new intake design and the R 154 for about 20 guys

I am committed/focused

I never take any money until the project is complete, I work alone, if I got hurt or something I couldnt honor the contract and we all know 1 'aw shits' cancels out 100 ' atta bouys'

the R 154 is done, It has to go to casting Monday and get machine tested

I figure two weeks away from building a run of adaptors

No problem Bill, just let me know when they are ready, the steel inserts are very nice.

Gentleman Rogue · Post by **Gentleman Rogue** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:46 am

PacmanDSM wrote:Thanks alot Bill. Your work is greatly appreciated

NightlifeD50 wrote:buschur makes the adapters for powerglides

http://www.buschurracing.com/
Buschur no longer makes the 1g/2g adaptor plates. Only the EVO plate. Atleast thats what he said on EvoM back in Nov 08.

David Burschur is an ass. a while back i sent him a detailed email about an idea i had to use one of his adapter plates to bolt up a T56. i included all of the details of my build, and simply asked what he thought of the idea and if he thought it would work. he responded by reading the first two sentances of my message, not answering any of my questions, and trying to sell me a 'built' mitsu auto trans. none of my money will ever go towards anything with his name on it.

i even kept the message- i read it when i feel like getting pissed off and amped up for an argument...

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:00 pm

me on the list for one of these plates. i want one in case i get tired of rowing gears.

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:21 pm

they come with a cup holder and a phone jack , so you can lean into your cell phone while you drive >;o)))))))))))))

I got a guy to help me, He's a machinst thats only working 4 days a week so I can get this stuff done

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:11 pm

I built some couplers ahead of my sales to send out for heat treatment, I am going to check out how it changes dimensions

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:45 pm

these are the first heat treated couplers

jeffball610 · Post by **jeffball610** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:10 pm

I assume that the flywheel bolts are not torqued down too much to worry about messing up those nice aluminum couplers. I'm sure you've taken this into account, but thought I would bring it up.

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:28 pm

Good stuff Bill, how much did the dimensions change?

Jeffball-these are made out of steel

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:05 pm

I used 4340 annealed steel to build the billet coupler, then they were hardened to a 36 to 42 rockwell number which is harder then the crankshaft itself

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:14 pm

Bill, how hard do they go before it looses strength and becomes brittle?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:10 am

I figured you would know that, John

http://www.suppliersonline.com/property ... p#physical

Harfman111 · Post by **Harfman111** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:31 pm

Looking very nice Bill. I can't wait to get my hands on one!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:29 am

just drop an E mail or private message, they are here and for sale

speedy6963 · Post by **speedy6963** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:06 am

Bill got my adapter, LOOKS GREAT

Thanks

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:41 am

Hey Bill,
Im posting yet again on another of your trans adapters with a few questions on this one as I'm debating on which way to go.

1)Which starter works with this set up - i think you said toyota, but i didnt know which one...

2) Im completely new to the GM Autos...what is needed to run a trans and how do you determine which torque converter to buy and how do you set it up for shift points? I know in the auto DSM trans there is a TCU...is it the same thing or is this controlled some other way? I am looking to originally set my car up with an EVO 9 turbo, so I'm looking to shift around 7500 to 7800 rpm with I guess a high stall? converter around 4000 to 4200 or so? If this is a poor set up, someone please let me know. If not, please help me know what parts to purchase. Thanks!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:39 am

the adaptor basicly creates an imitation Chevy block to bolt the Chevy trans to.
It uses EVERYTHING that you can buy for the Chevy 350/400/ powerglide transmission staright out of any hot rod parts supplier, nothing custom made, the starter is from a Toyota 85/95 22 RE engine, but you change the pinion gear for $15.00

there are no custom mods needed with my system, no custom converters, or flywheels or starters, its all over the counter stuff

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:39 am

bill are any of these ready yet?

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:14 pm

Ok, I have another question for ya (shocked I know...) With the th350 being placed in a MM/D50, do I need to purchase a speedometer from a parts store/online or is there a way to wire the stock speedo to work with the trans? Thanks again Bill for the GREAT affordable option

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:54 am

yeah, these adaptors are all set, I may make one small change but that would be just adding an 1/8 of an inch on the coupler because the adaptor plate came out so nice, I hate to shave it down so far, I might as well leave it a little thicker

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:27 am

preffered payment method? cash in an envalope with the latest edition of hustler?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:14 am

just get me a date with the 'babe' in the shower >;o)

I will set one aside, no reason to rush

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:07 am

there sure is a reason to rush. im getting married and i gotta spend my money before she does. so let me know how you would like your payment and how much

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:52 pm

Hey Bill or anyone using the th350/400 - what is done to have a working speedometer? Aftermarket or can we get the stocker to work? Thanks!

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:24 pm

shroder15 wrote:Hey Bill or anyone using the th350/400 - what is done to have a working speedometer? Aftermarket or can we get the stocker to work? Thanks!

I am not sure about the stock speedo, but you can buy plenty of aftermarket speedometers, you best bet it a programmable electronic speedo.

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:55 am

I knew the aftermarket ones worked...but is it possible to use the one out of the d50?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:28 am

yes, you can make the stock speedometer work, there are adaptors built for the 4wd guys that fit in the cable line, you can either reduce cable speed or increase cable speed to get the right readings, the way you correct the speedometer is to mark out a one mile strech, then drive your car over that mile with a working speedometer, look to see how the odometer reads, if its less then a mile, you need to speed up the cable, if its more then a mile, you need to slow down the cable
any clutch and brake shop can help you out with adjusting the speedometer internally, GM color codes different drive gears for different model cars using the hydromatic/power glider trans

Matt Arruda · Post by **Matt Arruda** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:48 am

And Bill comes through once again !
For those of you who have tracked the development of Bill's adapter here are some great pics which show the diffence in Bills new hardned coupler and cast adapter design. Here are some side by side comparisons of the old and new design.

its hard to tell in this pic but note the differnce in thickness of the hardned coupler which is bolted up to the flex plate vs the one in my hand.

Hare's some random pics for fun qualty and fitment is great only thing we needed to modify was the SFI bell housing (thicker aftermarket race legal bell housing) in order to bolt the starter in we needed to clearance the inside of the bell housing, nothing a die grinder could'nt handle. Note with a stock GM powerglide there was no modification needed the starter bolter right up. I do not want to hijack the tread so please keep keep questions and coments regaurding the project specific to the GM adapter. Enjoy

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:26 pm

Hey Bill, Sorry to keep bugging you but I had another starter question or two. Which car(s) or truck(s) that toyota produced had the proper starter and is the pinion gear something you have to order through JEGS or can you take that off of a GM starter for the th350?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:02 am

anybody can buy this set up at jegs I think it was $15.00

the starter is generic ( that means its built for many cars at once shroder)

The reasons I used this starter was because it was cheap, easy, reliable and had a good solid flange to fit my adaptor

The starter I use is from the Toyota 22 r engine with a manual transmission, 4wd or rwd from 88/93 bosch part number SR122X

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:46 pm

Well, I am going to be ordering one within the next few weeks from you, but I'd like to go ahead and fab the transmission bracket. What I need to know for the crossmember is if there is an angle on the trans or if it is completely level. Also, what is the width of the mounting plate? 3/4 or 1in now...thanks!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:29 am

in the old hot rodder dayz, the level of the engine was set by the angle of the front drive shaft u-joint and the level of the carburater base plate so the carb would be level
with fuel injection, you can set your angle by the front u-joint and disregard the level carb base

so really, its up to you , the designer. to build in the desired angle, my plate is flat on both sides, allowing an inch for the plate would be about right

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:05 pm

Well the deal I had for a built 350 trans and high stall pressure plate fell through so I'd like to go ahead and order one of these but need to know how. If you accept paypal thats great, If not, just let me know how to pay!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:39 am

just E mail me or PM me, we will get you fixed up Shroder

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:33 pm

Hey Bill, I went to order the starter gear and Jegs is on back order for an undetermined ammount of time. I cannot wait for the starter as I have an event in 2 weeks coming up that I am pushing to get everything together for, which leads me to two questions. 1) Do you have any extra starter replacement gears you are willing to sell or 2) Does the pricey Jegs starter still work with this adapter? Any help would be great!

Oh, and BEAUTIFUL adapter plate...I just got it in the mail and cant wait to get everything together. Thanks!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:58 pm

I just got back from a week off, let me find a starter gear for you , jegs aint the only place to have them

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:59 am

Thanks Bill. Just give me a heads up on where and I'll get one ordered right away!

speedy6963 · Post by **speedy6963** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:11 pm

Bill Hincher wrote:I just got back from a week off, let me find a starter gear for you , jegs aint the only place to have them

Im needing to get a starter gear now too, the powermaster part number 604 looks about same.....

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:31 pm

the 604 from powermaster does look correct and if the rest of the info is correct, it looks like either the Ford or the GM 11 tooth starter gear is the same

I am going to order the 604 from powermaster and check it out, in the mean time I will send you my gear so you wont miss the shoot out

shroder15 · Post by **shroder15** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:08 pm

Thanks for the info Bill. If you are looking to shoot the starter gear to me, please let me know how much I owe you so I can paypal it to you. Thanks!

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:54 pm

shroder15 wrote:Thanks for the info Bill. If you are looking to shoot the starter gear to me, please let me know how much I owe you so I can paypal it to you. Thanks!

I need an adress Shroder, I got tooo many code names and internet handles to sort out which one is you >;o) PM me