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Kiggly Racing question

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Has anyone used their CAS that mounts on the front :?: as I am doing a DOHC rwd conversion and it would be a good thing if I dont have to bash the firewall or move motor forward
Your advice / help would be G R 8
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Post by Burabuda »

different engines had cas in different places
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Re: Kiggly Racing question

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OLDIE wrote:Has anyone used their CAS that mounts on the front :?: as I am doing a DOHC rwd conversion and it would be a good thing if I don't have to bash the firewall or move motor forward
Your advice / help would be G R 8
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I found this link, but being a noob i am not sure if it totally replaces the cam angle sensor or just does the crank sensor half of what the 1g cas does.

http://www.kigglyracing.com/parts/cranktrigger.htm
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Post by PacmanDSM »

It only replaces the crank angle sensor portion of the signal. You still retain the CAS for the cam portion of the signal. The only way I can think of to not have a CAS facing the firewall would be to use a 2g 7 bolt setup.
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Post by screemin eagle »

if you could figure out the wiring you could use the kiggly crank trigger and a 95-96 2.0 head with the cam sensor that runs off the intake cam gear. that is going to be one of my future revisions so i can free up some working room in the back of the motor.
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Post by StellarDOHC »

If ur running an aftermarket ECU and are not going with sequencial EFI or coil on plug, then u dont need the Cam signal.
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Post by screemin eagle »

oldcolt75 wrote:as i belive peregrine once said " just do it as they intended and beat the fire wall in" .. its really not that bad
if you want heat it takes a little more finess than a BFH
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Post by OLDIE »

Thanks 4 all your replies I definately won't be using the FBH OR GAS AXE METHOD BUT WILL BE MOVING THE ENGINE& GEARBOX 15 MM(5/8 th of one inch to you guys :) ) forward by redrilling the appropriate mounts
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Post by 89coltgt »

I have been throwing around the idea of using the 95-96 setup as well. I had been messaging Kevin Kiggly about this and he had suggested welding some bosses on the 1g head in order to mount the 2g setup on there, or simply use the 2g head. The only downfall here is when it comes to adj cam gears due to the trigger on the intake cam gear.
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oldcolt75 wrote:then dont use a adjustabe cam gear on the intake .. for the most part the exaust is the one that needs it not really the intake

Just don't run either. I was stating the issues with that setup that I found.
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UPDATE Now have a setup on the front of the crank so no longer need to move motor forward or the FBH method
Hope to be able to offer them for sale in a few months
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Post by DJpowerHaus »

I started Craig's car the other day. It has a 95/96 timing setup. 2G crank sensor on a 6 bolt front cover and a 2G cam sensor on a 1G head. We dont have any tune yet, but it didnt seem to have any trouble spinning to 3000rpm (no load). Can't wait to get it tuned. We are crossing our fingers that it continues to work fine up to 8000rpm on the dyno.

All I had to make was a little bracket to mount the crank sensor on and I had to trim a 1G timing plate (the metal disc between the timing belt sprocket and the balance shaft sprocket).

Base timing was only about 1 degree off due to imperfection in sensor placement or trigger wheel trimming. That is close enough for a stock ECU to work just fine.
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Post by dwlee »

DJ, are you post photos of the setup on Craig's car showing what changes were made?

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Post by 4g64fiero »

You need adjustable cam gears to properly degree in the cams. You need them for both intake and exhaust assuming you have aftermarket cams. There are few cams that come as advertised and I assure you they are not under 500usd a set.
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