top mount turbo

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:13 am

If you are trying to weld the steel plate to cast iron, good luck with it holding up very long, it is a good idea but I just don't see it being very durable.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:03 am

2 Gaskets?

Anyways. This looks like an awesome idea. I'm now considering it for my car over the log manifold I was going to make. Keep us posted on how it turns out.

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:37 pm

How are you going to bolt the manifold to the head?

Nevermind, now I see what you are trying to do. Do the ports still line up with it flipped?

citrus3000psi · Post by **citrus3000psi** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:00 pm

Interesting... Let me get this straight.

Your going to block off the orginal turbo exit with a plate...

Open/cut/grind the top and mount the turbo directly on the top?

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:40 pm

Like this:

Makes me want lox and bagels.

turbostellar · Post by **turbostellar** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:36 pm

thanks for posting up my pic, mine was done with an aftermarket mani that i cut , flipped and welded. gives much more room to work. on my application the turbo was touching the frame rail

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:57 pm

I cut and welded like you did and it lasted about a year. Maybe 12 events. Then it cracked to hell, not only on the welds.

turbostellar · Post by **turbostellar** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:40 pm

i hope mine doesnt end up like that but i guess time will tell, i can always make another one using this one as a template

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:38 pm

BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:46 am

What you mean doesn't have the time??? All he has to do is clone himself-- again.

turbostellar · Post by **turbostellar** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:35 pm

i gotta say thats a good idea, nice work my friend

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:21 pm

haha great idea. im suprised nobody thought about it before.

coltboostin · Post by **coltboostin** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:25 pm

Robert Venable wrote:BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Lol'd

Just for reference, I cut/flip/welded a China t4 manifold.

http://doitbig.org/coltboostin/pics/4GX ... %20006.jpg

turbosigma · Post by **turbosigma** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:31 am

coltboostin wrote:
Robert Venable wrote:BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Lol'd

Just for reference, I cut/flip/welded a China t4 manifold.

http://doitbig.org/coltboostin/pics/4GX ... %20006.jpg

coltboostin - is it still holding up? - as i did the same.
http://www.walkercorp.ath.cx/car/f1.jpg

IDriftNaked · Post by **IDriftNaked** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:45 pm

oldcolt75 wrote:well if i have enough steel ill sell them ..

i'll be a buyer for sure, for 2 of em atleast.

great job man, this actually solves alot of clearance issues that i had. now i can put my alternator back in the stock location and i can make a p.s. bracket that would bolt to the a/c compressor area and not deal with clearance issues.

let me know when or if you can make them extras

coltboostin · Post by **coltboostin** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:30 pm

turbosigma wrote:
coltboostin wrote:
Robert Venable wrote:BILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Lol'd

Just for reference, I cut/flip/welded a China t4 manifold.

http://doitbig.org/coltboostin/pics/4GX ... %20006.jpg

coltboostin - is it still holding up? - as i did the same.
http://www.walkercorp.ath.cx/car/f1.jpg

No cracks, I even took it out for a drift session 2 nights ago before its last trip into the garage.

Mine is braced-so I would find a place to brace it to the flange. I can get some pics if you need, but go through the pick in my link and see if you can see what I am talking about.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:57 pm

Do you guys want to get a batch of these cut? I should be able to invest in that in a few months or somehow line up a group purchase. If someone could make up a CAD drawing or something, that would really help.

Can you make me a wood mock up as well? I'd like to test fit one up on my racecar with the Holset.

IDriftNaked · Post by **IDriftNaked** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:20 pm

DJpowerHaus wrote:Do you guys want to get a batch of these cut? I should be able to invest in that in a few months or somehow line up a group purchase. If someone could make up a CAD drawing or something, that would really help.

Can you make me a wood mock up as well? I'd like to test fit one up on my racecar with the Holset.

i'm in for sure!
i made a wood piece for my starion just to test fit the other day and it cleared the hell out of my lower egine section plus it looks less cluttered! not to mention the turbo lines are a lot easier to acess.

just for shits and giggles, how thick would the real adapter be?

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:56 pm

I would make it atleast think enough to thread studs into it with out bottoming out on the head-- I'd say 12-14m minimum considering the 8mm studs we are working with.

Would the 2nd gen heads need different plate or just opening up the outer bolt holes would probally work right??? Then you could just convert to the 1gen set up.

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:55 am

i'll take one at least.

seeker · Post by **seeker** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:16 am

put me on the list...

citrus3000psi · Post by **citrus3000psi** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:43 am

Do we need an autocad drawing for this? I have a friend that works in aerospace and he does this type of stuff all day. I'm sure he could whip one up in 30 min or less. If we really need one I'll have him do it. Just let me know.

abstract · Post by **abstract** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:30 am

Great idea, something that everyone needs. I will back this Idea, hell I need one.

autox4fun · Post by **autox4fun** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:47 pm

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/flan ... askets.htm

not sure if you've looked here...but... $30 or 50 for stainless

stack, weld, port....

seeker · Post by **seeker** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:59 am

you still working on these?.....

Burabuda · Post by **Burabuda** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:11 am

i'll take one of you ever get around to making a few!

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:19 pm

I will buy QTY-1 from you.

StellarDOHC · Post by **StellarDOHC** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:36 pm

I'll be down for one as well. Stacking those flanges and welding them looks pretty straight forward but i wonder if that would last being thermo cycled day in day out. A solid piece sounds great, get on it dude haha.

Burabuda · Post by **Burabuda** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:13 am

how many guys want one i wonder? i'm ready to rock 'n roll on my project, so i might have to go ahead and have it done myself
i've got a local guy with an old water jet that does stuff for cheap

this will be steel or aluminum?

89coltgt · Post by **89coltgt** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:10 am

Burabuda wrote:how many guys want one i wonder? i'm ready to rock 'n roll on my project, so i might have to go ahead and have it done myself
i've got a local guy with an old water jet that does stuff for cheap

this will be steel or aluminum?

Steel(preferably stainless).

Burabuda · Post by **Burabuda** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:03 pm

hey oldcolt, can you post a pic taken from above showing the turbo manifold with spacer in relationship to the rh strut tower?

nuckinfuts · Post by **nuckinfuts** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:44 pm

I want one too! Maybe we can get a group buy/shipment to So. Cal.

boise-nic · Post by **boise-nic** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:48 pm

So what was the verdict on these? Are they being made? I' would gladly take one!

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:02 am

Is it possible to send it to RRE? I'm sure they already have it drawn up and a supplier.

If not, I could have my dad draw it up and have it laser cut somewhere around here. The biggest pain is going to be tapping half the holes.

Burabuda · Post by **Burabuda** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:58 am

which reminds me, the guy who'll do these up for cheap won't be drilling and tapping for us

ixnay · Post by **ixnay** » Fri May 08, 2009 2:27 am

i dont know how u will fit a wastegate i think it will be to tight.

77amc · Post by **77amc** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:14 am

Id almost want one of the 125.00 ones and cut/flip/reweld it back up..

That's why I wanted to know how much room there is between the standard 4g valve cover and the average quest/project hood to either make a scoop or just have it sticking out like the ol blowers of yor.

Does it matter how long the runners are on a forced exhaust anywho?
Those looked really long..

Errol

rarson · Post by **rarson** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:10 pm

As far as that flange adapter goes, all you need to do is go to emachineshop.com and make a CAD drawing of it. They'll machine it and send it out to you.

I've never used their service before, but it seems incredibly convenient for parts like this.

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