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Very sad for your loss Bill go easy mate.

Tony

Indeed it is Bill. I chose to use the bigger bell/pan fill trans on there so if i need to swap between the 2 I know they will both fit. On my custom flex plate I will order it with both small and large bolt patterns so if I need to use a case fill with smaller bell I can do so. I realise I will have ...

Yeah thats all understood Bill.
Here are some pics of a wooden mock up so far this morning:


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Im not going to use a chevy flexplate now. there was that in mind but what ive decided to do is get a custom flexplate made with 4g holes drilled in but NOT any other holes ie ford or chevy. the rest of the flexplate will be as a C4 / sbf detail, so in theory it will bolt directly to the crank with ...

It dont matter what flywheel you get, the 153 or the 167, they all have the same center, so all you can use is the ring gear[/quote]

Would the starter positions be different in the plate with differing flex plate diameters? Or is it possible to leave the starter to sit in the bell and have ...

No Bill flex plate is not a problem. Ill sort a flex plate myself, what i need from you should you wish to do is an adapter plate from engine to C4 with correct starter location and as said 164 tooth is my preference but 157 is fine too. Ill need to get an SFI plate made custom anyway.
The flex ...

Sorry about your wife Bill I hope it can be eased as much as possible for her.


7 bolt crank
If your GM plate could be drilled for SBF pattern instead of GM and the starter position could be made to work with Ford dimensions that would suit me best.
Ive got to get a custom flexplate made either way ...

The 4g64 block of mine here had a push type clutch.
It came with a 16valve twin cam head with direct injection into the chamber.
Idont have any of the bits left unfortunately

So Bill can you do me a plate??


Tony

Ok I get it now Bill, That means there is a 3rd 4g64 pattern. Its the same as Evo.
Jez has posted pics for me in the other thread. These bolt patterns (my 64 and evo 8) are 100% the same as far as mounting holes and dowel positions. My block came from a mitsi spacewagon which is kind of van/mpv ...

Thanks for that Jez :D

Bill, If we could get an adapter plate made that takes the C4 (SBF PATTERN), It would give the choice of which bell housing people want to use ie stock or SFI approved.

The starter position would obviously need to be added to the plate to suit the C4 position.
This only ...

Bill, are you saying there are wide block, narrow block AND EVO?
Where are the differences?
My 4g64 bolt pattern looks the same as the evo pic you put up. So Jez on here that you did a bell to fit the r154 ... does that bell only fit evo and nothing else?

cheers

Tony

Ill confirm later when back home. Ive got block plates for both and an E8 block next to my 64 block.

Tony

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah, now I remember

yeah I said I would be building the proper bellhousing for that


Thats the one :wink: My issue in race trim will be the need for SFI approved gear mainly flex plate and bell (i may get around the bell issue with a sfi sheild but defo need the sfi flex plate ...

Its for my 4g64 which is the same as evo 8. If you remember im putting a C4 on the back possibly using the bell housing from ultra bell to convert from gm to ford.You were going to mail me with something but i guess you been busy.

Tony

what do you guys think about this?

I think its a great ...

Its for my 4g64 which is the same as evo 8. If you remember im putting a C4 on the back possibly using the bell housing from ultra bell to convert from gm to ford.You were going to mail me with something but i guess you been busy.

Tony

Hey Bill I still need the gm adapter plate if youre bored mate

Tony

Cool project! One thing concerns me- will the -16 water hoses flow enough?
Has this been done before?

Tony

Im not sure if there is a preference for my needs but ill dig about for some info on pro's and cons. As mine will be on the back of the 4g i can adapt as needed.

Any other C4 users fancy this conversion?

Tony

I have been asked for the C4 ford set up, but nobdy ever follows through on it, I need to know which C4 is popular

Probably me on pm :D

As far as C4's go post '70 is better. These are known as pan fills as opposed to case fills from pre 70.

The pan fills have the bell bolted to the perimeter ...

looking good jez now if i could get bill to do me a C4 bell to fit mine

Tony

Set the base pressure to 3 bar (45psi approx) while ignition is on before running and recheck when its running to allow for the battery charge feeding the pump. Thn just leave it there dyno or not.

Tony