Redesigned W 55 /59 non turbo toyota trans bellhousing

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Redesigned W 55 /59 non turbo toyota trans bellhousing

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I always like to find ways to improve on my work, I took a bellhousing I had built before for the W 55 series trans and thinned it down, inside and out
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I added a vent in the top of the bellhousing
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I added a new flange in the front of the bellhousing to accept the side mounts I had built into the R 154, so now 8 mounting bolts can be used, I also raised the two lower mount area's so the engine can set lower
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I raised the floor of the transmission side of the bellhousing using individual mounting bosses to save a little wieght and I liked the look
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I took some 5/16 aluminum rod and bent them at the right angle and welded them on the outside of the bellhousing aligned next the the mounting bolts
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Then I molded in the rods with body filler and filed it down to shape, notice how long the lower mounting bolt housings are, the inner ring around the flywheel was the thinnest part of the bellhousing, in an effort to provide more strength, I used a much longer lower mounting bolt so that it ancored beyond the thinnest part of the housing, that way you can choose to use just 4 engine/bellhousing mounting bolts and still have the required strength to use a rear transmission mount

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It requires hours of filling and filing and sanding and do it all over again and agian until you get the right size and look
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I made the gussets much taller this time hoping to gain added cooling from air circulation
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Now this is and excellent ,low cost, strong entry level set up so anybody can afford to build a RWd 4G63 narrow block

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This bolt pattern fits both the first and second gen 4G63's
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Post by 79Colt »

Hello Bill

Great work you doing with the bellhousings, it take a lots of patience and skills to make a product like that!


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thanks Coltmiester,
Right now I have to send this to the casting shop and pick up my first batch of internal throw out bearing R 154's that are done, while I am machining out the R 154's, I gotta get the T 56 narrow block done then the wide block T 56
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Looks great Bill, I cannot wait to see how the new r154 housings turn out.
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89coltgt wrote:Looks great Bill, I cannot wait to see how the new r154 housings turn out.
Same here! Bill, do you think you'll be able to ship the new R154 next week? It's not that rush for me, but the timing would be great. :)
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the new redesigned W 55 bellhousings are in, I will be machining all week
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this is the test out phase of the W 55 through 59 series Toyota non-turbo trans and I am very happy with it
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It fits very correctly in every way
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only a few minor adjustments are going to be made and these babies will be done on mass
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They are very,very nice :D :D :D
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all clutch parts come directly from the donor W 55 trans
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Post by peregrine »

god damnit bill. i was tossing around the idea of building another RWD so i came here to snoop around for ideas and i find this. are there any actual running t56 cars yet?
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yeah man, I musta sold 100 of them, PM an adress to me and I will send you a video that shows the whole set up
I am close on the T 56 set up you wanted too
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well Kane, I would love to get one in your hands, find something in your 'stash' to trade
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Post by turbosigma »

hi Bill,

top work as always - just thought i would show you what Dellow here in OZ does
found one on ebay :D
by the looks - yours has a bit more support to it.

pic's to inferior bell


still want the T-56 in the red one - so will run the idea if we can get a group buy on sigma-galant and austarion of any of your bells to OZ when there finished - if ok by you.

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you must do things differntly in the land of OZ
trampling on my work and hi-jacking my post will definatly put you at the top of my list to get the T 56 bellhousing :)
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Bill, In OZ every Bellhousing you buy you get a free can of Veggie mite! :lol:


Maybe you should offer a can of Spam! :P
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hi bill. what flywheel do i need in order to use the bill housing for the w55-58 and the w154. i hope i can use my awd act flywheel ans how much it will cost :?:
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he based it off the fwd flywheel same as if you were to use a mighty max tranny
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Post by jeffball610 »

The AUS bellhousing looks like it might be setup for both narrow and wide blocks. Seems to have 3 holes in the top of the flange. What are they for? Definitely inferior though. Still uses the cable type clutch for the throwout bearing.
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Well I just recieved my new W55 Bell housing from Bill'sAutoFab(BAF). Let me just say I am throughly impressed. This thing is amazing as far as casting work and detail. The pictures on here just does not do these designs justice.
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I will be mounting and seting up this thing soon. For the price and strength it is great. Stay tuned for installation pics and performance. I would encourage any one considering this transmission option to get this bell housing. Can't beat the price.
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Last night i mated the 1987 toyota celica trans that I got via ebay for $49.00 bucks. The casting in the BAF are so similar to the toyota one, it's crazy. I have before and after pictures that I will be posting tonight. From the the differences in transmission that I currently have(W55 & D50)., the toyota trans is larger and casting is stronger. For your price point transmission option for narrow block, this can't be beat. For relative stock motor internals w/ bolt-ons(16g turbo and fuel mods,bs eliminator,larger throttle body, with porting). I will also post some pictures of the differences in trans size for those who are curious. There are some pics on here already but w/o the bells mated to the trans's. I also will be looking at the geometry of the throw-out bearing in relation to the slave for those who are also curious. I have asked Bill many question about his design. I also grabbed his video for great reference and insight. He is extremely helpful and great asset to this forum. The only obstacles I for see is driveline. We will see.

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Toyota W55
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Well after examining everything last night, its looks that the shifter location will be very close to the D50 transmission. I did notice that the slave has some adjustability at the bell housing only due to the size of studs used.
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This toyota W55 also has a short throw shifter on ebay for $180.00 that I am looking at getting.
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Post by Bill Hincher »

try out this site, its my attempt to build a video on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvjLuQP8V0A

its the assembly of the w 55/59 bellhousing

let me know if it works
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Post by SWVADR!FT »

Nice video Bill, it explains alot.
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thank you :D I guess I better build a video for every one of the bellhousings
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Post by SWVADR!FT »

Hey Bill can you get me a measurement from the front of the bellhousing to the center of where the shifter is mounted.
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they came in 5 different lengths from 18 inches to 21 1/2 inch check out this website
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/index.html

in the left hand column look under ' MA-61 Supra' and then under 'driveline'

you will find complete information on the w series and the r 154 trans
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yes, I build about three w 55's amonth and sell them on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... ksid=p4506
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Post by stagen »

Bill Im curious, whats the bellhousing measure from front face to rear face?
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to be honest I will have to look but from memory I believe it was 7,450 inch
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Post by Silverstreak »

Got my bellhousing in from bill.
Quality is fantastic, included everything I needed. Cant wait to get this baby on. Even the box was perfectly made to fit! :D Will see how long the tranny lasts... I'll probably get the r154 housing in 8 months time.
Thanks again bill!
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