I have been building tooling all week for the bellhousing project, they are drilled and fitted. I never did see where these housings were on the market place here, but I do have them for sale now. They will come with a collar for the trhowout bearing, a spacer for the pilot bearing, probably a video of how the combination all comes together I have a few things to fine tune but nothing I cant over come easily.
I will need feed back, I will do what ever it takes to make sure you have a quailty finished peice.
I had to change some of my plans, I had wanted to use the Toyota throw out bearing ( which would work ok) and clutch fork, but the clutch fork was too large and looked like hell ( although it would also work) but the Mitsubishi clutch fork works much better and I could get more strength from a custom made trhowout bearing holder, so i will include one with the housing. The flywheel must be drilled to allow the front of the input shaft to clear it and bring the trans closer to the flywheel. ( it is the only machine work needed). I used the stock Toyota slave cylinder in the system and moved it the the intake side of the engine so it would not collect heat from the exhaust.
I will be changing the water pump next so that the inlet is directed down and to the right side of the engine, next I will be making the outlet for the thermostae different for more room in the back of the engine, and then a new platium for the intake........
If you dont like what I am doing.......just wait 5 minutes!
I would like to see a bolt on water pipe. Something that would let you keep the sensors and thermostat, but would leave lots of room behind the engine.
Any prices on bellhousing swap "kits"?
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
Yeah......I am stuck on about $350.00 for the bell housing, I just got a R-154 trans shipped in and I am looking at the options of a adaptor for my bell housing to work with that also..........
this trans is HUGE compared to the w-55 58 series.......I know its a 5 speed and all..but is it really worth it?
I chose the R154 for it's robust nature. I can't find any links right now, but as I recall the factory rated it at 450ft/lbs. I have seen numerous cars running over 600whp on this unit. My goals are not that high, but I needed something that could take about 400ft/lbs of tourque. What is the factory rating on the W58 and what are some real world numbers on it? I could easily change my plans to use this transmission if it's strong enough. I paid $510 to have the R154 shipped to me, but I'm sure I could pick up a W58 for under $200. Got any links or info on the W58?
I was just thinking about the weight.............the way it looks the idea of a sandwich adaptor is gonna work for you ..........( first impression)
It just suprised me how big it was...............maybe we could come up with a rear trans mount moved in the center point of the trans to balance the weight..............the length of the trans will add leverage / stress on the bellhousing / engine point...........when you add that much torque........the bellhousing bolts tend to lose thier torque.......maybe studs should be used
Just some random thoughts.........I will work on the adaptor plate after this weekend then I want to tackle the oil pan.............there has to be an easy, well thought out solution to building a decent rear sump oil pan. It would allow most folks to set the enhine lower ( lowering the CG ) and allowing the oil to stay in the sump on excelleration.........I saw one from Moroso for over 500 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn!!!!!!!!!!!! it wouldnt work on a rear wheel drive.....but DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $500 bucks for an oil pan?
makes me feel like ' pivot man' in a circle jerk!
The first bellhousing is ready for delivery and sold........I will be putting the rest out next week........after I built all the tooling I needed I figure I can build one in about three hours
as usual , I expect changes and imrovements after the housing is in the field.......I want to use this group to test the product....so if you purchase one of these units, I will exchange these early units , in this group, if any signicant improvement in safety and service can be made, that way you can be assurred you will recieve your money's worth......I am going to list these on Ebay, I except paypal, the starting bid on ebay will be $400.00.......but inside this group the price will be $350.00
Sounds like they're coming along. Let me know when you have something for the R154. Unless the W58 is a good choice. Anyone have any hard numbers on them? I keep hearing 300-350ft/lbs. That would be enough for most of us that choose the narrow block option. But does anyone have any REAL WORLD numbers. Like I said, the R154 was only rated at 450ft/lbs but is repeatedly abused by 500-600+hp cars in drag conditions. I'd really like to get something going soon so I can get my engine/tranny mounted and move along.
Jeff,
I tore down the R 154 trans today and put it side by side with the W -55...........no question the r 154 is the right choice........the gears are at least 20% wider and the bearings are all bigger..........its like the old hemi 4 speed.......it will never break ..........just a word to the younger guys....when you reassemble the transmisions...........always take the time to hand lap the syncro's to the gears with valve grind compoud.......why? because the syncro's job is to slow the gear down for a smooth shift......the syncro is a brake................so if its laped into the gear with valve grind compound,,,,its more efficeint as a brake and shifts better under hard acceleration.
The adaptor plate will be fine, I have to get some materail to finish the job, but I have it laid out and it looks sharp and effective....the disc and the pilot brg are the same as the W-55 and the input shaft is 1 1/4 inch longer........but we can use that to our advantage
Matt, I thought you said the RB26 bellhousing could be used to bolt the KA24 to the Z32 300ZX transmission?
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
ok this threrad is slightly confusing. bill, do you have an adaptor yet to mate the 4G to a a r154? i have a friend in the midst of a rwd swp who is VERY interested in this. do you guys have any idea if theres an adaptor for a richmond based tranny to these motors?
He is reffering to me. I was hoping to stick a Doug Nash/richmond behind my 4G63. Although the R-154 would be a decent option, and far better than the mightymax truck option I've currently seen in operation. BTW, I've pesonally seen a unmolested mightymax tranny propel a colt to mid/low 11's all year long and never have an issue.
the bell housing for the 4G63narrow block mated to the R 154 is ready for casting, a spacer plate has to be added for length, which I am developing now, I need to save about $3000 bucks to get the castings done and it will be all set, Lots of guys are all intrested until its done and then they can't afford it, so I dont get real excited about it
awwwww dont worry, I will get it done shortly , I am a man of my word. I intend to be done with the spacer this weekend and get it to the casting by Monday. I have cut down the time to machine them ( correctly) by half with some new equipment
this time instead of sand casting , I am going to invest in plaster casting, its supposed to make a smoother finish and make repeatable forms faster and cheaper, its just that original investment.
I been working on a intake manifold for Kane ( mainstream ) too, its a beautiful piece,so that will be in the mix too.
plus I got my own hot rods to get done >;o)
Bill
I'm also willing to prepay. I've already set aside some cash for this. The bellhousing is the only thing keeping me from moving forward on my project. I can't get proper engine mounts and tranny mounts til I have the bellhousing. I was hoping to have one by the first of the year. Any chance that will happen?
are you still making custom bellhousings?? i have a JDM 4g63 narrow block.. i dont know what tranny to use yet.. but when i find out id let u know what i need if you are still offering this service
bill thats awesome!!.. what tranny will hook up to the narrow 4g63 in a 1g or 2g eclipse?? pardon me as i AM doing my homework.. but i got a bad case of information overload.. and how much do you charge for this service??
If you dont like what I am doing.......just wait 5 minutes!
