Revised Image Comparing 4G63 & 4G64Blocks, Head and Gask

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:42 pm

I pulled my 4G63's head today. While I was at it I snapped some pictures so that I could compare a Narrow 4G63 (90 DSM FWD in this case) and a Wide 4G64 (92 D50 Pickup). I also compared gaskets. All 3 OEM gaskets and the Cometic are the same as well.

Looks exactly the same to me. 6 bolt 4G64 needs no holes drilled or blocked compared to a 6 bolt 4G63.

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:59 pm

I would say that the one one the right has a head gasket, or atleast part of one still on it. Thats one hell of a difference.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:11 pm

No headgasket, but it wasnt scraped clean. I wonder if the one posted by Bill last night was the same thing (sorry if it was Bill). That's good old 200k miles DSM stockness. That motor never let me down. I'll give that head new life this week.

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:32 am

Yea, I saw that. Not sure if it was a joke, he is completely insane, or maybe he is just on a completely different level that none of us have, or will be able to, acheive. Maybe he will explain farther tonight.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:22 pm

There was a gasket on his photo of the block. You can tell by the straight edges on both side.

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:21 pm

Here is an image comparing the deck heights between a 2.4 and a 2.0:

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:48 pm

It's too bad you couldnt run a 2.0 turbo crank in a 2.4 block and use a longer rod

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:02 pm

But you can. It comes out to be a 2.1L engine capable of reving to 11,000rpm. Its actually in my pipeline, maybe for next summer. Also been done before. Have you ever reasearched this stuff? I think we even have posts on here about this combo already. Slowboy racing even offers the rods and pistons as a kit: http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=5105&

Bueller?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:14 pm

No, I never get into the motor swap stuff, we have to have everything certified with EPA, we face a $10,000. fine if we change any thing on the motor. and another thing, I would hate to build up a hot rod for a kid and have him get hurt or hurt somebody else because I helped him go fast.
I know how much it broke your heart not to make your race event after the blow out on the dyno, that must have been a 'ready to quit' moment.
Ever think about hosting an event?

Post by **DJpowerHaus** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:33 pm

Other than that one last week (money controlled by fucking californians) they are hosted by good friends of mine so its like we are hosting each event usually anyways. Missing events and deadlines has become routine over the last year, it doesnt really bother me. Plus it costs $200 in transportation costs + tires + fuel + broken parts, etc to do an event. I'm still bitter about them not letting me resell my spot to people that had to otherwise pay full price. I've finally gotten angry enough to call the company that ran the event to start a dialog about my frustrations with how they handled that. There will be other events.

Those EPA certifications and other things dont seem to stop most shops. Why does it stop you?

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:58 pm

I would never put myself in a position to be comprimised by a disgruntled customer

Robert Venable · Post by **Robert Venable** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:48 pm

You sure it's only $10k?? I thought it was up to $25k.