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Remote mount water pump??

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I was curious if anyone has used a remote mount water pump, i have been thinking about it and it doesnt sound like a bad idea. I would like to hear some peeps feedback.
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I have considered it, but as a aux. pump. I would've considered mounting this and wiring it up with my electric fan on a type of "turbo timer" assembly that would allow me to turn the engine off, turning on the fan and water pump to continue flow of coolant threw the head after it is off.

Just wondering, why would you be using this??
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i dont like the setup that the 4G63 has on it and from the looks of some peoples stuff, it would open the front of the motor up and give me more options as for hoses and routing. noticed some guys with serious drag setups run them as well. so it cant be all bad.

i just want thoughts and ideas, i havent set anything in stone yet
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Post by krackerx7 »

miezer has alot of options for remote mount waterpumps
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this is true, thats why i was just curious. Im going with the front thermasat option.
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Post by GRNDSM »

Guys, I am sure that this has been a common knowledge, but I just realized that electric water pump means NO THERMOSTAT! Which takes care of that problem ;).

Has anyone here had much experience with those?
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Post by Robert Venable »

Still need a thermostate. The water still needs to circulate in the engine to prevent hot spots while allowing for quick warmup by not going threw the radiator. For example, BMW's new New generation of 6cyl motors have electric water pumps that are remote mounted but they still have thermostats.
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you must have a predictable working temperature to tune the ECU to.
Really and truely, I don't see why they dont engineer air preheaters like they did with the carburated cars for years, it made a predictable air temp to work around
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Well... this is what cooling experts have to say about this matter:
1. With EWP ’smart’ Controller. Recommended method. Use the Davies, Craig EWP controller for optimum temperature control. The EWP Controller has a microprocessor, which will supply the pump with the voltage, that will run it at exactly the right flow rate to maintain the set engine temperature. You set the temperature you want on the ’smart’ Controller for maximum power and fuel efficiency!

With the ignition on, the EWP will run on after a hot engine shut down, eliminating heat soak.

This option requires the removal of the thermostat and either the mechanical pump impeller from the pump shaft, or the bypass of the water pump pulley from the belt set-up, using a shorter belt.
More info here: http://www.daviescraig.com.au/main/display.asp?pid=47

I am still hoping that I can get AEM EMS to control the pump, this way, I can even program things like % throttle, rpms, boost, ect to turn on the pump :twisted:

If that does not work, I can always fall back to the dedicated controller. But I doubt that EMS can't handle something like this.
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HMM, this is something I have not seen before. Thanks for the link, I'm planning on reading up on it some more.
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WELL DONE! that is a great find, kinda out of my budget but very neet
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Post by GRNDSM »

Well, this unit appears to be another good choice for a pump:

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-CSR- ... dZViewItem

And it is shiny :P
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