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Ok so i have a starion. blehhh. Figured it'd be a nice project to work on. I was reading the starion section of the forum and have one small question. I understand everything that needs to be done to put a 4g6x into it except the transmission part. The KM132 is the same in the mighty max and the starion so are the bell housings interchangeable?? I am looking into putting in a narrow block. Sorry for the noob question.
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I wish this site had a better display of all the foundation laying work that has been done to build the RWD option for the 4G63 and why
All the 'old hands' here have discussed and worked out details that get lost as the thread gets buried with time
' at a glance' Information can be a bit hard to find even if you know what to look for
Originaly, guys had to use a 'wide block' engine to convert to RWD using a Mazda bellhousing and a RX7 trans, that was okay but the shifter set too far back and it was index off to the drivers side, not to mention, you had to go to the expense of building the wide block into the turbo engine
You could buy a GM adapter from Buscher racing but it required a custom flywheel and torque converter for over $1000.00
So originally a bellhousing was built for the W 55-59 non turbo transmission for a 4wd rockcrawler to the 4G63 narrow block, as luck would have it, the W series Toyota trans was the same as the 2wd trans.
So now with this new adapter , you could convert your FWD narrow block engine to RWD without the added expense of converting the engine block to a wide block and use the original Mits flywheel/starter/pressure plate with just a factory stock Toyota disc
That was 4 years ago
Since then, the R 154 Supra trans, the T 56 6 speed trans, the GM auto matic trans and now the T 5 ford trans was built to fit narrow block 4G63 engine, so you have options to build what you want at a reasonable cost
After that the EVO 4 throuh 9 engine design was included into all the bellhousing designs,and you can choose between the FWD or the AWD flywheel when you order the housing
Cooling systems were worked out to use a front exit, wiring diagrams were posted , motor mounts were examined and drive shaft yokes were found
Its all here , but not easily on display
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Bill Hincher wrote:I wish this site had a better display of all the foundation laying work that has been done to build the RWD option for the 4G63 and why
All the 'old hands' here have discussed and worked out details that get lost as the thread gets buried with time
' at a glance' Information can be a bit hard to find even if you know what to look for
Originaly, guys had to use a 'wide block' engine to convert to RWD using a Mazda bellhousing and a RX7 trans, that was okay but the shifter set too far back and it was index off to the drivers side, not to mention, you had to go to the expense of building the wide block into the turbo engine
You could buy a GM adapter from Buscher racing but it required a custom flywheel and torque converter for over $1000.00
So originally a bellhousing was built for the W 55-59 non turbo transmission for a 4wd rockcrawler to the 4G63 narrow block, as luck would have it, the W series Toyota trans was the same as the 2wd trans.
So now with this new adapter , you could convert your FWD narrow block engine to RWD without the added expense of converting the engine block to a wide block and use the original Mits flywheel/starter/pressure plate with just a factory stock Toyota disc
That was 4 years ago
Since then, the R 154 Supra trans, the T 56 6 speed trans, the GM auto matic trans and now the T 5 ford trans was built to fit narrow block 4G63 engine, so you have options to build what you want at a reasonable cost
After that the EVO 4 throuh 9 engine design was included into all the bellhousing designs,and you can choose between the FWD or the AWD flywheel when you order the housing
Cooling systems were worked out to use a front exit, wiring diagrams were posted , motor mounts were examined and drive shaft yokes were found
Its all here , but not easily on display
i plan on drifting the car. i dont want a wide block build just because i knew i would have to rebuild. so the answer to my question is no?? i am looking for a combonation that will allow me to adapt a rwd mitsu trans to the 4g6x narrowblock. the car will be worked on for a year at least. i am going to do it right the first time. but anything over 600$$ for just the trans and engine seems a bit unreasonable to me seeing i dont plan on making over 300 horse.

is it possible to make a mitsu rwd tranny bolt to the narrow block thats my question??
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yeah, you can buy the R 154 toyota trans adapter, or the W 55/59 Toyota adapter or the GM auto trans adapter or the T 56 adapter all for the narrow block
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Post by Verdad »

the 2.0 tranny bolts up to the narrow block. will it take the abuse of a drifting car? thats on you man.

all this info is here. google project zero g. then dont pick the link that comes straight to the forums. read the front page, as they go over tranny options, cooling issues, and piping issues. Just take the time and read it, as its pretty informative. gl man
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Bill Hincher wrote:yeah, you can buy the R 154 toyota trans adapter, or the W 55/59 Toyota adapter or the GM auto trans adapter or the T 56 adapter all for the narrow block
ok i found my answer lol seems the w5x or the r154 trans will do. ive given my old mk3 na a beating at the tracks and i hope the guy still makes the trans adapters/bellhousings to make it fit. i didnt realize how weak some of the usable mitsu trans were LOL. i was just trying to stay all mistu to retain value in the car. seeing as its in immaculate condition. THANKS FOR ALL THE ASSISTANCE. :D
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seems the w5x or the r154 trans will do. ive given my old mk3 na a beating at the tracks and i hope the guy still makes the trans adapters/bellhousings to make it fit.
a little more help for you.

http://www.billsautofab.com/

also known as........ Bill Hincher. Maker of the adapters you need.
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