R154 instalation.

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:24 pm

ok who here actually has put this beast in the starquest or anything yet?
well mine is in the car finally and i had to beat the ever living shit out of the tranny tunnel to get it to fit. with the motor 2" foward the cross member willl work with spacers and some fab work wich i need to do still.The bigget issue is the shifter. unless you have some sort of shifter extension housing your gonna run into trouble. by my rough measurement of eyballing it a jdm shifter extension housing from a toyota soarer will land it almost dead stock location.unfortunetly i think you have a better chance of getting a lap dance from jessica alba then finding one. there seems to be another option from these guys but its $350 http://tech2motorsports.com/products.php?p=424 here is the only pic the have http://tech2motorsports.com/products.php?p=77
unless the great hincher wants to step in these are the 2 options that would apear to work. just giving a heads up to all

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:19 pm

its already been done, check this out

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showth ... p?t=477519

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:16 pm

have another beer smogmiester!

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:33 pm

i saw that while searching and that doesnt move it back enough.

i was considering cuting the tunnel open but then i would have to rip the interior out of the car again make new motor mounts and box the fire wall. id rather figure out a shifter instead.

ill post up whatever i end up doing

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:50 am

is this in a Starion? do you have pic's?

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:28 pm

ill get some when i head over to my garage.

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:35 am

I got the extension figured out , I just have to draw it out

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:49 am

this little design would fit either the R154 or the W 55 series trans, it could be made to any length

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:01 pm

something like that would work but the tunnel doesnt have the hieght to fit it. the tranny is about 2" lower than the stock unit. grrr i wish i started the build with this tranny i would have boxed the fire wall ran front exit cooling setup and bolted the motor in stock location. oh well theres always next time.

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Thu May 28, 2009 10:08 pm

well i got the shifter extension installed the motor and tranny back in the car measured up the drive shaft and got it made. i just have some minor fab work on the tranny cross member and adapt a line for the slave. and finish up my fuel line and regulator.here are some pics.

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and a quick pic of the daily

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Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:38 am

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! screaming guy! OUTSTANDING!

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:24 am

thanks Bill.

77amc · Post by **77amc** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:42 pm

x2.. Brilliant!

What if you used rod ends instead of bar-stock? Do you think the lower shifter rod (under the ball joint) could be lengthened to make it a shorter throw in addition to what you made??

Errol

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:00 am

that looks great! how much did the shaft/shifter run you?

im finally gonna have time to start installing mine soon so i'll add pics and mesurements to thread too.

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:12 am

it was $350 i ordered it from tech2motorsports in southern cali. you can get the same thing from driftmotion. tech2 are a bunch of fucktards. they charged me for ups and sent it usps they also didnt give me back the shifterbushing and the turnaround was twice aslong as they told me. oh also that is the one for the 2jz in a 240 they move it 3 1/2 inch's back.

also i dunno if you had the motor and trans in the car yet but your gonna have to hammer the shit out of the tunnel to get it to fit or cut it and open it up. and for the tranny mount i used the regular r154 tranny mount and cut it up shortened it a few inch's its now solid so if you can get a used on i would. i was able to mod the stock cross member to work by moving back to the last mounting holes but i had to ream the holes becuase they are like a 1/8 in further apart.

cali · Post by **cali** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:10 am

screemin eagle wrote:it was $350 i ordered it from tech2motorsports in southern cali. you can get the same thing from driftmotion. tech2 are a bunch of fucktards. they charged me for ups and sent it usps they also didnt give me back the shifterbushing and the turnaround was twice aslong as they told me. oh also that is the one for the 2jz in a 240 they move it 3 1/2 inch's back.

also i dunno if you had the motor and trans in the car yet but your gonna have to hammer the shit out of the tunnel to get it to fit or cut it and open it up. and for the tranny mount i used the regular r154 tranny mount and cut it up shortened it a few inch's its now solid so if you can get a used on i would. i was able to mod the stock cross member to work by moving back to the last mounting holes but i had to ream the holes becuase they are like a 1/8 in further apart.

do i have to hammer both sides of the tunnel or just one side? i have the r154 mount and i was planning pretty much what you described.

you moved your setup 2" forward right?

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:49 am

yes motor is moved 2" foward if you dont your gonna have to cut the tunnel to open it up. yes both sides were hammered mainly the driverside.

cali · Post by **cali** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:17 am

i finally got a chance to start test fitting everything...you're right, im going to have to hammer the crap out of the tunnel; i marked where it needs to be banged in.

got any pics of the brackets you made to move the engine 2" forward? any mods to the crossmember...it looks like it might fit barely but i won't know for sure untill i bang in the tunnel.

77amc · Post by **77amc** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:48 am

Wow, youre gonna run air conditioning? Will the lines mate up from the quest to the 4g63?
I thought about moving the power steering res further toward the radiator.
Even on my Mighty Max, the res seems to be just out there in the way..
Looking great

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screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:46 am

77amc: no the ac lines will have to be custom made wich really isnt a big deal. there are a few places that can do that locally by me so it should be a small issue.

cali for the mounts i used the mm/d50 brackets and made my own mounts out of 2x5 rectangle stock and just re drilled it to move the motor 2" foward. much easier than making elaborate plates or bracket IMHO pluss i plan on making some decent power and was scared the rubber mount was gonna tear. ill see what i have for pics of them. i didnt snap any shots of the cross member but what i did was move it back as far as possible but the holes in the tunnel were further apart so i reemed them so it would bolt up. them i ground the ribbed stamping off one side and welded a 1/4 steel plate to it and drilled the patter for the supra mount.

you can kinda see it in this pic. i cut them on an angle to access the bolts easier and welded in some gussets to make them stronger

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screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:56 am

what header is that? ive been looking at evo top mounts and they look like they might work with minor adjustment.

also your build looks great man very clean i wish i had the attention span to do it lol.

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:18 am

screemin eagle wrote:77amc: no the ac lines will have to be custom made wich really isnt a big deal. there are a few places that can do that locally by me so it should be a small issue.

cali for the mounts i used the mm/d50 brackets and made my own mounts out of 2x5 rectangle stock and just re drilled it to move the motor 2" foward. much easier than making elaborate plates or bracket IMHO pluss i plan on making some decent power and was scared the rubber mount was gonna tear. ill see what i have for pics of them. i didnt snap any shots of the cross member but what i did was move it back as far as possible but the holes in the tunnel were further apart so i reemed them so it would bolt up. them i ground the ribbed stamping off one side and welded a 1/4 steel plate to it and drilled the patter for the supra mount.

you can kinda see it in this pic. i cut them on an angle to access the bolts easier and welded in some gussets to make them stronger
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im having a hard time seeing exactly what you did in the pic....i'd like to be able to keep the rubber mounts for now to see how they hold up. would your idea work in my case?

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:21 am

screemin eagle wrote:what header is that? ive been looking at evo top mounts and they look like they might work with minor adjustment.

also your build looks great man very clean i wish i had the attention span to do it lol.

i bought the manifold off a guy in club3g.com and just had it cut and rewelded to make it a top mount...seems very sturdy so im hoping it will last.

sidewayz69 · Post by **sidewayz69** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:29 pm

nice

really nice!

once i find out how
i will post pics of my rwd 4g
or what kind of gear box is that?
i am using the sirus 2000 gear box on mine

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:50 pm

well it runs and drives. pretty cool. gonna drop it off to have the down pipe done i dont have the time to do it myself. then time for some tunning.

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:24 am

just to recap. i got a new slave after the last one broke. i used the conquest slave rod and it seems to be working the clutch pedal is kinda low but i have not adjusted the clutch master rod yet. tranny shifts pretty good. no crazy noises or vibrations other than harmonics from having all solid mounts. gearing seems ok lugs a little bit but once boost comes on its all good.i dunno maybe a gear set swap in the future to 3:90. i guess ill work out the bugs and tune it first.

so am i the only one whos car runs with this tranny so far?

anyone know of a speedo adaptor or cable thet will work.

cali · Post by **cali** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:17 am

congrats on getting it to work...you might be the first and only one running it so far.

mine took the back burner again but i'll start working on it again this week.

the r154 has a mechanical speedo gear right? let us know if you find any solution to it.

Bill Hincher · Post by **Bill Hincher** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:58 am

I wouldnt let you down dave >;o) it aint my nature

cali · Post by **cali** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:26 am

it looks like im going to be able to install the r154 without moving the engine forward. there's one more spot i need to bang in more but i'll have some pics tomorrow of what i got so far.

cali · Post by **cali** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:59 am

so i finally made some progress on this install but im having some problems...i decided to move the engine forward 2" after all since i didn't like the fact that everything was so tight but for the life of me i can't get the motor brackets to sit on the mounts right. i included some pics to show what i mean. if one gets bolted down the other side will sit too high...do i have to slot the bracket or something? i used two brackets with part number MD041030.

also it looks like i have to extend the shifter 2 3/4 inches.

screemin eagle · Post by **screemin eagle** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:09 pm

wich belle houing do you have ? is it the one where you have to shorten the input shaft? i have one of the originals and with the engine moved foward 2" i need to move my shifter back more than you. if you search on supra mania you will find factory parts that move the shift back an inch or so with it there it isnt so bad thats how my d50 gear bax was. if you heat the shifter arm and bend it you should be able to make it work comfortably

cali · Post by **cali** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:29 am

screemin eagle wrote:wich belle houing do you have ? is it the one where you have to shorten the input shaft? i have one of the originals and with the engine moved foward 2" i need to move my shifter back more than you. if you search on supra mania you will find factory parts that move the shift back an inch or so with it there it isnt so bad thats how my d50 gear bax was. if you heat the shifter arm and bend it you should be able to make it work comfortably

yes it's one of the newer versions in which i had to cut the tip off the input shaft.

i'll look into those parts but i'll probably just have it extended...i have someone local who can do it for me dirt cheap.

now if i can just get engine to sit right.

cali · Post by **cali** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:29 am

screemin eagle wrote:wich belle houing do you have ? is it the one where you have to shorten the input shaft? i have one of the originals and with the engine moved foward 2" i need to move my shifter back more than you. if you search on supra mania you will find factory parts that move the shift back an inch or so with it there it isnt so bad thats how my d50 gear bax was. if you heat the shifter arm and bend it you should be able to make it work comfortably

yes it's one of the newer versions in which i had to cut the tip off the input shaft.

i'll look into those parts but i'll probably just have it extended...i have someone local who can do it for me dirt cheap.

now if i can just get engine to sit right.

cali · Post by **cali** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:50 pm

got it sit right finally...had to slot both brackets...

i was off on the shifter length...it does need to be extended about 3.5".