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I have decided to change projects, I love my talon, but after almost 15 years of breaking parts, its time for a change.

I owned this car for many years and it has been fun to drive with the factory slant 6 but now its time to give it a new heart, 4G63 style, so here it is, my 1969 Plymouth Valiant powered by a 4G build thread

Its funny because ive been preparing for this for over a year now, and then i saw frankendarts car..... ok so im not so original anymore. LOL

here she is.... beauty is in the eye of the beholder..









It all starts with a trip to RMS Motorsports on monday to buy some parts. right now the car has torsion bar suspension, 4 wheel 9 inch drums and steering box style suspension, needless to say it sucks.... so this is what i bought.



So I drive 7 hours to Pensylvainia,
this is what im greeted with... HEMIS!

All aluminum 572 hemi, 800hp on pump





And more hemi goodness, the owners 69 Dart with a crate 572
















So heres the parts i picked up, new wheels and tires,
rears are 15-10 with 28 inch drag radials



fornts are 15-4 on 26 inch tires





suspension parts



coilovers



wilwoods



k frame



this is not from the same guys, but, bills autofab GM adaptor plate for automatic tranny



bolted up












first update, I start work today, this is its new home for the winter....



Wheels off fluids out.... bye bye slant six



front suspension and brakes that are soon to be replaced. factory steering box, torsion bar suspension, drum brakes all going to the scrappers.





teeny tiny rear end, soon to be replaced by a ford 9 inch or something like, im not sure yet.





it should all be out by the end of the day.

And here is the Valiants soon to be new heart.... (but the header is now sold)











La, cest le temps de sortir le vieux Méo Pancher (slant 6) de la, cest vraiment incroyable comment pessant que cest.... mon petit 4g63 va etre tellement leger a comparer...





Au moin 800 livres, cest completment debille, tout fait en fonte, mais y roulais tellement bien...



un gros trous...





Bon, mantenant le temp d'arracher tout le front end, encore un GROS weight savings...














Test kit du nouveau K frame Tubulaire RMS motorsports.. 41 ans pis le frame na pas tordu de un millimetre...







Bon, a ce point ici, mon stagiere ye tanner, pi moi aussi, on ferme le lumiere pi on lache ca pour la fin de semaine... une petit derniere photo...










More updates, shop wasnt to busy yesterday so I did some more work....

I dont know why i did this, im going to have to do it again after I paint the car.



Repainted the K frame, the powdercoat wast nice on this piece.



Bolted into place



Lower control arms



with coilover



spindles and brakes





Sway bar and Rack












MOAR!





Wheels fit






But not in the back, I want the back tire to be tucked in the wheel well, and thats not going to happen with this size of tire, so no im debating between mini tubbing or just doing a whole backhalf 4 link setup... I did get a chance to measure up the rear diff width, nothing stock is gonna work, i have to get something narrowed, so im thinking explorer 8.8...








Boring update of the week, i found someone on a local forum that wanted to trade his mickey thompson DR for a smaller pair, turns out i had the size he wanted, so no ive got a bigger pair! woohoo more traction! I have to do a mini tub anyways so why not...

used to be 275-60-15, now 325-50-15 or 28-13.5-15














Well Ive decided on my diff, ford explorer 8.8, found one localy for 250$ hihihi, comes with disk brakes and a 4.10 gear, which should be able to hit about 160mph in 3rd @ 8000rpm depending on converter and tranny slip, who knows....

Also found a local guy to narrow it, its going to be chopped almost 10 inches to fit the new tires, theres going to be alot of cutting in the body to make them fit, time to buy a plasma cutter!

here it is before the work , sandblast, paint etc...





HOLY SHIT THE AXLES ARE BIG! and they are only 31 spline, im setting up for 33.

:f pick with a standard talon axle... no more breaking parts woohoo! :f




thats about it for today.
HAPPY NEW YEARS BONNE ANNEE!







Boring update, Rear end is at my chassis guy to get narrowed, waiting for a big package from Moser, spool axles etc.

but some stuff showed up yesterday.

FRH intake, Old school i know, but i honestly cant belive this isnt made anymore, In my opinion one of the best designed intakes I have seen, I find the plenum small, so i will be building a new one, but the runner section is amazing.



Look at the transition and the size of the runners.



and then this showed up from Ron @ shearerfab. man he does good work



smooth....



thats about it , Im getting married this week end so things go on hold for a couple of weeks. but hopefully the rear end will be done and i can start tubbing the car.









News.... Im waiting to board a plane back to ottawa after a week long honeymoon in florida... Turns out some parts showed up from Moser at the shop for my hopefully bullit proof rear end...

New shortened 35 spline axles


Spool, axle ends (c-clip eliminator)


And diff cover with wheel lugs, input yolk and hardware..


I should have the diff back on thursday, then the cutting begins... With my new hypertherm plasma!!! Can wait to burn some metal!

When i get home im gonna post some pics of my trip to t
Titan Motorsports.... Lets just say it made me doubt my powerplant choice....









Small news, My diff is back! he did a great job, very happy. Has a 4.10 gear, spool, new axles yada yada yada...

pics







BIG NEWS THE TALON IS SOLD! so i have the money to order my TH400 transmission from Rossler! WOOHOOOOO :megadance









Big progress last weekend, started fitting my diff in the car, start by cutting out the wheel tubs to fit mini tubs in place...





This is what has to fit in there....




start cutting for the leaf spring relocation.



relocation kit welded in





lower the car over the diff and hope it fits...














the result...







from the back on the ground
















Pushed it outside to get a better look...

Love this project!!


can't wait to see more progress.


Thanks for sharing




Jeff

Awesome man!!! Can't wait to see more

FANTASTIC MAN!!

It's getting warm down here and I'm chompin at the bit to get my Hornet going like yours..
Got some other stuff to finish first but MAN, your build gives me all sorts of plans.

There's a guy down here that basically lives in the middle of a Dogde/Chrysler junkyard that has all sorts of neat cars like yours.

Are you gonna go with mild-mannered dog dish hubcaps?
What about a drive shaft? Alloy or steel?

Just great build man..

E

Looks really good, juming right in it! The new narrows rear/tire sizes really makes it lool mean. The mopar guys are gonna flip out when they see what's under the hood!

Big update, for me at least, My transmission is finaly here, went to pick it up at the border last night, Its a Rossler th400 with transbrake and a few extra goodies, Aluminum high gear drum, reverse pattern, Csr scatter sheild.... The guys over at Rossler were very nice over the phone, and they were the only ones out of the 7 companies i phoned that didnt laugh when i told them what it was going into. I hope it works as well as I hope.


Without the sheild







the sheild





Installed



B&M Pro Ratchet shifter, in black of course!





And I bought this, just cause my supplier had them in stock, and im sure they never will again, ARP Cam bolts, LOL totaly waste of money, but I like bling.










Now that the tranny is here the real fun begins time to start fab work, heres the begining of my FRH intake hybrid, q45 TB, I cut out the pattern with my plasma, worked out great.

Neat shots drilling the baseplate,







Materials



the idea,





MARTY CAGE!



Pre cutting



commin to life











Also bought some super sexy exhaust studs from ARP, yum...





And a dipstick for the tranny




More news to come.

Looks good, I am using the same dipstick, very nice piece!

April Update, Well the shop is nuts right now, so "The Mutt" is on the back burner a bit, Plus my kid is starting to get her first Teeth, so lets just say its busy at home too.

I did Finish the intake manifold, Im very happy with how it turned out, Ive got the new magnus V# cast on order, just to compare results on the dyno, but whatever, here it is.





Also I did a first test fit of the engine, It has become painfully obvious that the stock front sump oil pan is not going to clear the rack and pinion, so Ive started to fab a rear sump pan..





I hope to get some free time this weekend, to drop it in and make some mounts....

I believe this wins for the most awesome build thread.

I think everyone here would love to have that intake, looks like you could just flip it as built originally.

thanks, and yes the intake can be flipped like the forester did originaly, but there would be firewall issues.

Looks great, I'm loving it. Where did you get the oil pan flange, or did you make it yourself? I am interested in purchasing one. Keep us posted on how the TH400 works out, also who is doing your stall converter?

I just cut it out of some 1?4 plate aluminum with a jigsaw, traced it from the stock pan, took about an hour. Im not sure who to use for the converter, Im thinking Coan, going to be an 8 inch with sprag.

Matt Arruda wrote:Looks great, I'm loving it. Where did you get the oil pan flange, or did you make it yourself? I am interested in purchasing one. Keep us posted on how the TH400 works out, also who is doing your stall converter?

Looks really nice Dan, keep the updates coming!!

Update. I was able to find a half hour free to finaly throw the engine in, I quickly fabbed a tranny moun and used a shim under the oilpan to support it, this is the final placement, I will start on the engine mounts soon,

So far things look good, lots of clearence on everything, I just need to double check drive line angles. Bare in mind the turbo is just sitting there for inspiration.

how are we doing?................

WAY OVERDUE update, the shop has been crazy and my baby is now over a year old and quite the handfull, but my wife gave me the day off today to get some work done on "The Mutt"

First, time to fill the gigantic holes in the trunk with some wheel tubs... Big thanks to my buddy Yan who rolled me the fenders..



Sheet metal.





welded





tacked in











Now that the tubs are tacked in i will do the finish wleding at the shop on the hoist, im to old to work on the floor.

So I turned my attention to finaly mounting the turbo, so i built a stupid little rig to hold it in place...



here we go..





Well after a long day, I called it quits after 2 runners, Its a pain in the ass building this stuff!

But this is its finaly position



I hope to have more updates soon!
Later

where did you get that intake flange?

E

Which one exactly, the lower part of the intake? Its an old school Forester racing soon to be for sale btw.

77amc wrote:where did you get that intake flange?

E

how are we coming along?

Where did you get that exhaust flange ?

I'm betting that's a Shearer exhaust flange....looks great!

JMF Carries flanges also... http://www.jmfabrications.com/store/pro ... -Pipe.html

the head flange is from AMS the turbo colector is from Shearer

Jan 2012 update, Well It's been crazy busy lately, and I havent had time for an update in a loooooong time, Progess has been made, Im sure I am leaving alot out, the oil pan fab is done, so is the header, intercooler piping and rad mounting, then everything got taken out so It could head over to Pauls for some chassis work, heres a few pics.

Subframe connectors and rollcage mounts



Interior cage shot, will try to certify for 8.50's



What the trunk looks like, New wheel tubs, fuel cell and rear bars.



And something I found to inspire me, although It will never happen its nice to dream.



Thanks for looking
Dan
www.hpauto.ca

Never say never sir

Weight savings update, I had planned to buy a bunch of fiberglass parts for the car, theres a company in florida called AAR fiberglass that makes fenders, hoods and bumpers for my car, the fenders are 399$ each plus shipping from florida and the bullshit at the border, Found these on Kijiji, cost me 125 for the pair, plus 80$ gas and a 13$ subsciption to Sirius so I could listen to Howard Stern on the 8 hour drive and not fall asleep...

old fender 25.6 pounds
New fender 10 pounds
31.2 pounds saved
900$ + dollars saved, was a good day
They in great condition and made by AAR too!

Small victory today, got The Mutt running! There's still a million things left to do but it's nice to hear it kick over!

No the exhaust isn't staying like that, yes I know the water pump isn't turning and yes I know the wiring is a mess, one thing at time

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62 ... C16CB6.mp4

Got the exhaust done this week
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What happened? I noticed some of your nice parts for sale. On to bigger and badder things?