6 bolt vs 7 bolt in a 2.0 D50 swap

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I've read so much I am starting to get confused. Do the 1G DSM's ('89 to '94) come with either 6 bolt or 7 bolt cranks. If so, which years have which.

ie if I get a '93 DSM, could it have a 7 bolt crank?

if i do end up with a 7 bolt, can I use the 2.0 D50 transmission with a 7 bolt, and if so which flywheel do I need and does it need to be machined in any way?

sorry for the confusion

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Ok, thanks, that maks sense now.

Can you ouline why the 6 bolt is superior, I've seen that written a lot but don't really know why.
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got it, no 7 bolt
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speaking of main caps.... the 1G turbo mains are linked together 1-2 3 4-5... the 2G has them all linked with a girdle 1-2-3-4-5... the 2.6, 2.4, non turbos(I think) are not linked together at all. Wonder how that will do....
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<!--QuoteBegin-89onaquest+Feb 1 2005, 03:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (89onaquest @ Feb 1 2005, 03:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-tjc+Feb 1 2005, 12:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tjc @ Feb 1 2005, 12:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> got it, no 7 bolt [/quote]
just thought that would be better then, "do not get the 7 bolt"... that gives explicit reasons...[/quote]
no, i really appreciate the answer, that is exactly what I was looking for thanks :lol:
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6bolt came in 89-mid year 92 from then on went to 7bolt but 92-94 7bolts are different they dont crank walk as much in actuality all 4g63 crank walk (ive had 2 bolts that walked) just stay away from 95-99 motors they are the worst not only with crank walk they also spin bearings like nobodys business
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<!--QuoteBegin-89onaquest+Feb 3 2005, 10:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (89onaquest @ Feb 3 2005, 10:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-screemin eagle+Feb 3 2005, 06:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (screemin eagle @ Feb 3 2005, 06:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 6bolt came in 89-mid year 92 from then on went to 7bolt but 92-94 7bolts are different they dont crank walk as much in actuality all 4g63 crank walk (ive had 2 bolts that walked) just stay away from 95-99 motors they are the worst not only with crank walk they also spin bearings like nobodys business [/quote]
Ah, but the 92-95 small 7 bolters have swapable parts with the 6 bolt parts... When they redesigned a good thing they made it worse...

and what has a 2 bolt? the bolt # refers to the crank/flywheel number of bolt holes...
All the '63, '64 have 2 bolt main caps... but that is not the issue...

While some of the 2G's have a girdle... but still we were talking about why not to go with a certain 7 bolt motors.

Any motor can spin a bearing... if you have a motor that is known for it you can take alot of steps to prevent it... [/quote]
ok well many have tried to prevent crankwalk in the 95-99 motors no one has done it yet
the heads from all years are interchangeable with slight modifacations like reeming the head bolt holes the heads from the later 7bolts 95-99 are actually the ideal head they are the raised runner head but require a ton of porting to make it flow
to determin the difference between a 6bolt and a 7bolt you could either count the bolts for the flywheel or look at the oil pans by the crank pulley the oil pan is flat on a 6bolt and on the 7 bolt there is a slight hump
ive never heard anyone refer to any of the motors as a 2bolt only heard that with chevey 350's
also the 95-99 motors came with a windage tray where pre95 6 bolt or 7 bolts didnt have one
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when you get to 666 is customary to retire the name and start new. I want a 4 bolt main :-/
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Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
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That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
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