W58 Price check

[StarquestRescue]

I came across a 84 na supra today in a sleepy junk yard. The tranns, shifter and drive shaft is still there. The mileage is 237K. What is the going rate for these? Should i pass on account of the mil age? They yard guy said he would have to ask the boss about the price. I wasn't sure what trans was in it but a goggle search indicates it is the W58.

Wikipedia said there is a later model version off the W58 that is better.

W58
This transmission is popular as a replacement for weak stock transmissions in other vehicles. It came in two varieties: the original found in the 1982-1989 non-turbo Supras, Celicas and Cressidas of the early 1980's; and the later version found in Mk3, Mk 4 Supras and Lexus SC 300s.
Toyota lists a change from an alloy sandwich plate to a steel sandwich plate around 1989. The steel sandwich plate has some minor internal differences, and it is believed to be slightly stronger (some wider bearings, some wider gears, slightly different gear selection mechanism, etc.). In theory the all-alloy version of the W58 should be the exact same strength as any other all-alloy W-Series transmission. The steel plate version is considered much harder to find and worth approximately three to five times as much as an all alloy version.
The ratios and bolt patterns remain the same regardless of the sandwich plate used.
The W58 & W57 share the highest gearing and closest ratios (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th (direct)) of the stock W-Series transmissions.
The ratio shift was accomplished by taking the W55 base ratios and changing the input shaft to intermediate shaft ratio by 7.9%, thus shifting 1, 2, 3 ratios higher by that amount. This also shifted the overdrive 5th gear higher by the same amount creating a wider and taller overdrive ratio.
The W58 is sometimes designated as a "close-ratio transmission"; however, in its stock form it does not meet all the criteria for a close-ratio box.
Toyota engineers have shown favor to the W58 over the rest of the 'W' series by including it in so many models and even building a stronger version for higher powered applications.
Ratios:
· First Gear: 3.285:1
· Second Gear: 1.894:1
· Third Gear: 1.275:1
· Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
· Fifth Gear: 0.783:1
· Reverse: -3.768:1
Applications:
· 1982-1986 Toyota MK 2 Celica Supra
· 1986-1992 Toyota MK 3 non-turbo Supra
· 1993-1998 Toyota MK 4 non-turbo Supra
· 1986 Toyota Cressida
· 1986 Toyota Soarer
· 1982-1992 Lotus Excel
· 1992-1997 Lexus SC300

Pasted from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission>

[JAYFRESSH]

These are common and plentiful in the scrap yards.

Locally at "pull a part" there aprox. $46.00 add $15 for warranty.

So I'd say $100 for a known good W58 out of a NA MKIII Supra.

[77amc]

I'm going to look at a w58 this weekend. I saw it on craigslist local for a AUTO, but the guy said that his brother had a 84 5spd that he's been pulling parts from. 150.00+driveshaft.. 160K miles

Every yard I've been to only has the autos in them. ALL manual trans are gone. I did see a couple that were out on a dusty shelf but the shifter was right on the back of the body, not over the output shaft like in bill's pics.

Now this would mount the same as the R154 right??

I'm that much closer Bill

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