Does anyone know if the evo 8 intake manifold bolts up to a 6bolt 4g63 head? I am putting a 4g63 into a toyota corolla AE86 with a GM tranny. I sold my 10 sec talon, so I need a new toy:)
I am planning on designing an adapter plate for the tranny, unless somebody knows of a cheap kit already available?
Nate
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I guess my biggest question, is if anyone knows if the evo manifold bolts up to our heads? I will design an adapter plate myself soon as I get done with finals.
It would be great if the evo manifold bolted up, I guess I have no knowledge of the evo head or anything. I just know oldschool 4G's :blink:
It would be great if the evo manifold bolted up, I guess I have no knowledge of the evo head or anything. I just know oldschool 4G's :blink:
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mike+Dec 19 2004, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike @ Dec 19 2004, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well... the EVO VIII intake manifold is reversed, which makes it a better option for RWD. [/quote]
Right, I tried to find this answer for a couple days all over on the big forums, and all anyone could tell me was "I don't know". Someone should just go buy a felpro intake manifold gasket for the Evo VIII from autozone and see if it fits on the head
... I would, but I just bought a stock manifold after I sold my Forrester manifold, which will NOT fit with this swap.
Right, I tried to find this answer for a couple days all over on the big forums, and all anyone could tell me was "I don't know". Someone should just go buy a felpro intake manifold gasket for the Evo VIII from autozone and see if it fits on the head
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WOW! Someone else as crazy as I am. I'm looking at a rwd 4g63 as well. The car of choice would be the 84-86Corolla GTS/SR5. I'm looking for a really cheap one with a relatively unrusted chassis. Think I may have found one. An automatic SR5...blech.
Anyway, just really afraid of not being able to mate the tranny with the engine.
As for the intake mani...just make your own.
Keep us posted please.
Rob
Anyway, just really afraid of not being able to mate the tranny with the engine.
As for the intake mani...just make your own.
Keep us posted please.
Rob
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I wouldnt trsut those fags half the time. If it doenst bolt up its not possible to them. Even if slotting a hole or drilling is possible. I hate DSM guys.
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
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I am surprised at all the guys talking about risking designing and building their own adapter plates, seems stupid when I have them sitting here on the shelf. After almost 10 years of running them its obvious they are correct. Just a few thousanths off in designing one can cause major problems.
Myself, Plebani, Brent Rau, Mike Simon, Albert Lioe-a-tjam, all of us and many more use our adapter. Silly to design and make something when what is out there is perfect.
David Buschur
Myself, Plebani, Brent Rau, Mike Simon, Albert Lioe-a-tjam, all of us and many more use our adapter. Silly to design and make something when what is out there is perfect.
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How much is JUST the plate BTW? I think most of the price in the kit is the Torque Converter.
Dave, how willing are you to divulge information, such as measurements for such a part? I understand you are a business man, though and I respect that. If you havent noticed from the site, I lean more towards the "open source" sort of mentality. You know. Put your blood, sweat, tears, WAY too much money into develpment and then give it all away for free. And, yes, I am taking pills for my insanity.
Dave, how willing are you to divulge information, such as measurements for such a part? I understand you are a business man, though and I respect that. If you havent noticed from the site, I lean more towards the "open source" sort of mentality. You know. Put your blood, sweat, tears, WAY too much money into develpment and then give it all away for free. And, yes, I am taking pills for my insanity.
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
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<!--QuoteBegin-DJpowerHaus+Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DJpowerHaus @ Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldnt trsut those fags half the time. If it doenst bolt up its not possible to them. Even if slotting a hole or drilling is possible. I hate DSM guys. [/quote]
hey come on now not all dsm guys are dumb ass's you just asked the wrong people on the wrong message board you need to ask the seasoned dsmers who have been in the game for years and are willing to help
hey come on now not all dsm guys are dumb ass's you just asked the wrong people on the wrong message board you need to ask the seasoned dsmers who have been in the game for years and are willing to help
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thanks man. Sorry I was harsh with that post. I have had alot of bad experiences online. In person DSM guys have been pretty approachable. I still think alot of DSM guys have a hard time fabbing up things... look at the reluctance for most to run a standalone over a more expensive plug and play system. I guess all car clubs are the same.... well.. not SQ guys.
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
<!--QuoteBegin-David Buschur+Feb 1 2005, 07:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (David Buschur @ Feb 1 2005, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am surprised at all the guys talking about risking designing and building their own adapter plates, seems stupid when I have them sitting here on the shelf. After almost 10 years of running them its obvious they are correct. Just a few thousanths off in designing one can cause major problems.
Myself, Plebani, Brent Rau, Mike Simon, Albert Lioe-a-tjam, all of us and many more use our adapter. Silly to design and make something when what is out there is perfect.
David Buschur [/quote]
Are you going to tell us how much they cost? That would most likely help a ton. Maybe tell everyone here what you have, and a price for each piece, yada yada. That way you can stop just posting, "My parts are awesome, I don't know why you guys don't just buy my parts". Hell, maybe I will just buy one if I knew more about what you offered.
Thanks,
Nate
Myself, Plebani, Brent Rau, Mike Simon, Albert Lioe-a-tjam, all of us and many more use our adapter. Silly to design and make something when what is out there is perfect.
David Buschur [/quote]
Are you going to tell us how much they cost? That would most likely help a ton. Maybe tell everyone here what you have, and a price for each piece, yada yada. That way you can stop just posting, "My parts are awesome, I don't know why you guys don't just buy my parts". Hell, maybe I will just buy one if I knew more about what you offered.
Thanks,
Nate
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"How much for that intake?
It cost my partner and I $40 to adapt the stock one.
How much for the motor mount plates?
$15 here...
How much for the water outlet?
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too. If you want to build the car that way have at it. There is nothing I can do about or want to do about a guy that wants to do his own work. You are absolutely correct though, it is not as pretty as ours.
As for giving out dimensions on anything we build, you are right, I am not doing that. You guys can call me a tight ass money hungry prick if that is what you choose. I am in business to stay in business.
As for the adapter plates, as I said, you can make that stuff yourself, just hope it isn't off at all or you will constantly have problems with bearings, torque converters etc. I sent a 4g63 engine and a Chevy trans out to a company that charge me a lot of money to use a digitizing machine to get the specs absolutely perfect. It wasn't free to me to get the CAD work done nor is buying the 1/2" aluminum plate and having it CNC'd now. When you only sell a few here and there it is hard to re-coupe that money that you spent on CAD and CNC programming and such. I am just an asshole that wants to rip people off actually.
The plates use to be $500. They are perfect and put the DSM starter in the exactly location it needs to be to work. I found a new shop that CNC's them for us and we can now sell them for $350. IF that's too much get our your band saw and drill and make one.
The flexplates were $350. They are SFI approved, that was free to me of course too as are the factory Mitsubishi ring gears we put on them. Once again I am just out there to rip people off. I can do them now for $275.
The last thing I have been raping people on, cause that is what I do, is the torque converters. They have been $1350. Once again the first one I ever had made was perfect, you know I didn't spend the last 10 years testing them and improving them and getting stall speeds right. I just had to have another batch made of these, when we did we did a bunch of them and dropped the cost way down on them. I can sell these for $950 now. This isn't some junk ass converter you buy out of some domestic catalog. It is a completely one off piece made to work with the adapter plate, flywheel and DSM starter. It is also billet.
Please feel free to let me know what a prick I am again.
David Buschur
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It cost my partner and I $40 to adapt the stock one.
How much for the motor mount plates?
$15 here...
How much for the water outlet?
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too. If you want to build the car that way have at it. There is nothing I can do about or want to do about a guy that wants to do his own work. You are absolutely correct though, it is not as pretty as ours.
As for giving out dimensions on anything we build, you are right, I am not doing that. You guys can call me a tight ass money hungry prick if that is what you choose. I am in business to stay in business.
As for the adapter plates, as I said, you can make that stuff yourself, just hope it isn't off at all or you will constantly have problems with bearings, torque converters etc. I sent a 4g63 engine and a Chevy trans out to a company that charge me a lot of money to use a digitizing machine to get the specs absolutely perfect. It wasn't free to me to get the CAD work done nor is buying the 1/2" aluminum plate and having it CNC'd now. When you only sell a few here and there it is hard to re-coupe that money that you spent on CAD and CNC programming and such. I am just an asshole that wants to rip people off actually.
The plates use to be $500. They are perfect and put the DSM starter in the exactly location it needs to be to work. I found a new shop that CNC's them for us and we can now sell them for $350. IF that's too much get our your band saw and drill and make one.
The flexplates were $350. They are SFI approved, that was free to me of course too as are the factory Mitsubishi ring gears we put on them. Once again I am just out there to rip people off. I can do them now for $275.
The last thing I have been raping people on, cause that is what I do, is the torque converters. They have been $1350. Once again the first one I ever had made was perfect, you know I didn't spend the last 10 years testing them and improving them and getting stall speeds right. I just had to have another batch made of these, when we did we did a bunch of them and dropped the cost way down on them. I can sell these for $950 now. This isn't some junk ass converter you buy out of some domestic catalog. It is a completely one off piece made to work with the adapter plate, flywheel and DSM starter. It is also billet.
Please feel free to let me know what a prick I am again.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Thank you very much for the reply, Dave. If I would have had prices in the first place, I would have most likely never even started designing it myself. As I said before, I emailed you(your website) and got no information, which led me to just go on my own.
Nate
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<!--QuoteBegin-DJpowerHaus+Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DJpowerHaus @ Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate DSM guys. [/quote]
Maybe it was the hostilities that developed so easily. Fight your fights in PMs guys.
And maybe I shouldnt have said it in the first place. Every DSM person I've met in person has been great. Its the vail of the internet that really gets people bouncing off the walls.
Maybe it was the hostilities that developed so easily. Fight your fights in PMs guys.
And maybe I shouldnt have said it in the first place. Every DSM person I've met in person has been great. Its the vail of the internet that really gets people bouncing off the walls.
Getting the engine bolted in is about 10% of the way there.
The next 80% can go quickly with help and skill.
That last 10% takes about as long as the 90% that came before it.
<!--QuoteBegin-David Buschur+Feb 3 2005, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (David Buschur @ Feb 3 2005, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "How much for that intake?
It cost my partner and I $40 to adapt the stock one.
How much for the motor mount plates?
$15 here...
How much for the water outlet?
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too. If you want to build the car that way have at it. There is nothing I can do about or want to do about a guy that wants to do his own work. You are absolutely correct though, it is not as pretty as ours.
As for giving out dimensions on anything we build, you are right, I am not doing that. You guys can call me a tight ass money hungry prick if that is what you choose. I am in business to stay in business.
As for the adapter plates, as I said, you can make that stuff yourself, just hope it isn't off at all or you will constantly have problems with bearings, torque converters etc. I sent a 4g63 engine and a Chevy trans out to a company that charge me a lot of money to use a digitizing machine to get the specs absolutely perfect. It wasn't free to me to get the CAD work done nor is buying the 1/2" aluminum plate and having it CNC'd now. When you only sell a few here and there it is hard to re-coupe that money that you spent on CAD and CNC programming and such. I am just an asshole that wants to rip people off actually.
The plates use to be $500. They are perfect and put the DSM starter in the exactly location it needs to be to work. I found a new shop that CNC's them for us and we can now sell them for $350. IF that's too much get our your band saw and drill and make one.
The flexplates were $350. They are SFI approved, that was free to me of course too as are the factory Mitsubishi ring gears we put on them. Once again I am just out there to rip people off. I can do them now for $275.
The last thing I have been raping people on, cause that is what I do, is the torque converters. They have been $1350. Once again the first one I ever had made was perfect, you know I didn't spend the last 10 years testing them and improving them and getting stall speeds right. I just had to have another batch made of these, when we did we did a bunch of them and dropped the cost way down on them. I can sell these for $950 now. This isn't some junk ass converter you buy out of some domestic catalog. It is a completely one off piece made to work with the adapter plate, flywheel and DSM starter. It is also billet.
Please feel free to let me know what a prick I am again.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com [/quote]
i for one am one of the guys that most people on this board loathe. i just like to think im more practical in my old age. ive never been one to pay full price for anything except when i knew i absolutely had to. using daves tranny stuff for my rwd colt is one of these instances. i used to have a twin turbo mustang that i put a c4 in. i bought the tranny, convertor, and flexplate as a package from this douchebag friend of a friend. it "came out of his race car"
turns out the convertor was not quite the right one. the steps put it too close to the flexplate. i tried to use spacers cause i had blown all my cash on the package. i ended up with a sheared off input shaft, blown tranny oil pump, and a leaking rear main seal on my brand new 306 motor. ever since then ive been a strong advocate of doing things that important the right way the first time. its better to spend the money the first time than have repairs all along the way resulting in a long term bill that is sometime 3 or 4X more than the initial cost of doing it right. i bought a spare buschur converter from bruce kwartler a month ago in anticipation of this. i was just about to order the flexplate and adaptor from dave this month (at full price i might add) when i saw daves posts mentioning his new prices. that will save me $175 that i can use to get his trick billet thermostat adaptor and some AN fittings to run my coolant hoses. i do think that daves prices are high but when was the last time you ever heard anyone complain about the quality of his ware? plus his shit is shipped super quick unlike almost every other dsm vendor ive dealt with. some of you may think this post is brown nosing but i can see things a bit different the older i get. dont get me wrong, i still love the homie hook ups, i just got a $2800 dollar custom interior job from my brother in law for the cost of the materials ($300), i just look down the road at my purchases these days to see if im screwing myself in the long run.
It cost my partner and I $40 to adapt the stock one.
How much for the motor mount plates?
$15 here...
How much for the water outlet?
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too. If you want to build the car that way have at it. There is nothing I can do about or want to do about a guy that wants to do his own work. You are absolutely correct though, it is not as pretty as ours.
As for giving out dimensions on anything we build, you are right, I am not doing that. You guys can call me a tight ass money hungry prick if that is what you choose. I am in business to stay in business.
As for the adapter plates, as I said, you can make that stuff yourself, just hope it isn't off at all or you will constantly have problems with bearings, torque converters etc. I sent a 4g63 engine and a Chevy trans out to a company that charge me a lot of money to use a digitizing machine to get the specs absolutely perfect. It wasn't free to me to get the CAD work done nor is buying the 1/2" aluminum plate and having it CNC'd now. When you only sell a few here and there it is hard to re-coupe that money that you spent on CAD and CNC programming and such. I am just an asshole that wants to rip people off actually.
The plates use to be $500. They are perfect and put the DSM starter in the exactly location it needs to be to work. I found a new shop that CNC's them for us and we can now sell them for $350. IF that's too much get our your band saw and drill and make one.
The flexplates were $350. They are SFI approved, that was free to me of course too as are the factory Mitsubishi ring gears we put on them. Once again I am just out there to rip people off. I can do them now for $275.
The last thing I have been raping people on, cause that is what I do, is the torque converters. They have been $1350. Once again the first one I ever had made was perfect, you know I didn't spend the last 10 years testing them and improving them and getting stall speeds right. I just had to have another batch made of these, when we did we did a bunch of them and dropped the cost way down on them. I can sell these for $950 now. This isn't some junk ass converter you buy out of some domestic catalog. It is a completely one off piece made to work with the adapter plate, flywheel and DSM starter. It is also billet.
Please feel free to let me know what a prick I am again.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com [/quote]
i for one am one of the guys that most people on this board loathe. i just like to think im more practical in my old age. ive never been one to pay full price for anything except when i knew i absolutely had to. using daves tranny stuff for my rwd colt is one of these instances. i used to have a twin turbo mustang that i put a c4 in. i bought the tranny, convertor, and flexplate as a package from this douchebag friend of a friend. it "came out of his race car"
turns out the convertor was not quite the right one. the steps put it too close to the flexplate. i tried to use spacers cause i had blown all my cash on the package. i ended up with a sheared off input shaft, blown tranny oil pump, and a leaking rear main seal on my brand new 306 motor. ever since then ive been a strong advocate of doing things that important the right way the first time. its better to spend the money the first time than have repairs all along the way resulting in a long term bill that is sometime 3 or 4X more than the initial cost of doing it right. i bought a spare buschur converter from bruce kwartler a month ago in anticipation of this. i was just about to order the flexplate and adaptor from dave this month (at full price i might add) when i saw daves posts mentioning his new prices. that will save me $175 that i can use to get his trick billet thermostat adaptor and some AN fittings to run my coolant hoses. i do think that daves prices are high but when was the last time you ever heard anyone complain about the quality of his ware? plus his shit is shipped super quick unlike almost every other dsm vendor ive dealt with. some of you may think this post is brown nosing but i can see things a bit different the older i get. dont get me wrong, i still love the homie hook ups, i just got a $2800 dollar custom interior job from my brother in law for the cost of the materials ($300), i just look down the road at my purchases these days to see if im screwing myself in the long run. 
<!--QuoteBegin-89onaquest+Feb 4 2005, 06:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (89onaquest @ Feb 4 2005, 06:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never once questioned the QUALITY of Bu$her
Every one says it is good...
However everyone also mentions the $$$ it costs. Yes quality is not cheap, but when there is someone else that has the same thing for cheaper... quess where I am going...
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i see your point but see mine. buschurs stuff has been proven to run 7 second quarter mile times. if thats not bulletproof i dont know what is. i know not alot of people plan on running that fast but its nice to know that you can brutalize his stuff and it will come back for more. i am *very* hard on my cars. i prefer to buy strong stuff thats proven rather than hope it will hold together when i build it. i called them today and that billet thermo housing doesnt have provisions for a thermostat so looks like im going to cut the spout off a stock one and weld an AN fitting on there so i can run braided hose for my cooling system. so THERE, i went the cheap route
Every one says it is good...
However everyone also mentions the $$$ it costs. Yes quality is not cheap, but when there is someone else that has the same thing for cheaper... quess where I am going...
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i see your point but see mine. buschurs stuff has been proven to run 7 second quarter mile times. if thats not bulletproof i dont know what is. i know not alot of people plan on running that fast but its nice to know that you can brutalize his stuff and it will come back for more. i am *very* hard on my cars. i prefer to buy strong stuff thats proven rather than hope it will hold together when i build it. i called them today and that billet thermo housing doesnt have provisions for a thermostat so looks like im going to cut the spout off a stock one and weld an AN fitting on there so i can run braided hose for my cooling system. so THERE, i went the cheap route
<!--QuoteBegin-DJpowerHaus+Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DJpowerHaus @ Feb 1 2005, 04:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wouldnt trsut those fags half the time. If it doenst bolt up its not possible to them. Even if slotting a hole or drilling is possible. I hate DSM guys. [/quote]
just remember its because of a dsm guy you have that 4g64 block sitting in your basment
and you guys shouldnt really be raggin on dave becasue im not sure if you ve noticed but when i guy has a corral of 7 sec and up cars (one of which is a 4g63t conquest, exactly what this board is about) and has the means to run his own shootout, theres a good chance he knows exactly what hes doing. hes been in the game longer then everyome and that demands a certain level of respect. if his prices didnt match his quality he wouldnt be in busness. simple as that. bottom line is as much as we all at times might try to get around it, speed=$$.
just remember its because of a dsm guy you have that 4g64 block sitting in your basment
and you guys shouldnt really be raggin on dave becasue im not sure if you ve noticed but when i guy has a corral of 7 sec and up cars (one of which is a 4g63t conquest, exactly what this board is about) and has the means to run his own shootout, theres a good chance he knows exactly what hes doing. hes been in the game longer then everyome and that demands a certain level of respect. if his prices didnt match his quality he wouldnt be in busness. simple as that. bottom line is as much as we all at times might try to get around it, speed=$$.
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I would have to agree....but i don't think anyone is raggin on him....knowone should take a defense to anything said here....If you have a better way do it, if not find someone how does...thats the botton line....I may contact dave(BR) , and buy some things from him, other things i'll do myself....no harm done!!
There is always someone faster!!!
<!--QuoteBegin-David Buschur+Feb 3 2005, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (David Buschur @ Feb 3 2005, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "How much for the water outlet?
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com [/quote]
Dave,
Is there something wrong with my water outlets? They are made from round aluminum stock, not stock DSM parts. It just relocated the outlet to the front of the block. I actually got the idea from the guy with the Dodge Challenger. I don't feel I copied your product or even infringed upon your design. It just seems like you're implying my product is crap. If these implications are your intention, please explain why it is crap. You can PM me or email me if you'd like. I would appreciate your feedback.
Thanks,
Jay White
under $12 here...
Need I go on... So a few things may not look at "pretty" as yours, but as long as it works, it works."
You are absolutely correct. You can cut up a stock intake and adapt it, you can make some sort of water outlet from stock cut up parts and you can find some used motor mounts too.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com [/quote]
Dave,
Is there something wrong with my water outlets? They are made from round aluminum stock, not stock DSM parts. It just relocated the outlet to the front of the block. I actually got the idea from the guy with the Dodge Challenger. I don't feel I copied your product or even infringed upon your design. It just seems like you're implying my product is crap. If these implications are your intention, please explain why it is crap. You can PM me or email me if you'd like. I would appreciate your feedback.
Thanks,
Jay White
i got a evo IV intake manifold with the 510cc injectors and TB.
i really havent looked at it to much but i can see that ill have to block off the exhaust port that comes through the head and youll have to use the evo fuel rail because of the locations of the bolts. but if all else fails im just going to re drill the holes and make it fit.
im sure that the factory look of the stock man will look much better than a weld coverd moded one
also ... some of the aftermarket dsm manifolds have plentums that are bolted on so you can take it off and switch it arround
(Forrester Racing Heads Intake Manifold)<--- they make one like thiss
i hope that helps someone
i really havent looked at it to much but i can see that ill have to block off the exhaust port that comes through the head and youll have to use the evo fuel rail because of the locations of the bolts. but if all else fails im just going to re drill the holes and make it fit.
im sure that the factory look of the stock man will look much better than a weld coverd moded one
also ... some of the aftermarket dsm manifolds have plentums that are bolted on so you can take it off and switch it arround
(Forrester Racing Heads Intake Manifold)<--- they make one like thiss
i hope that helps someone