Here is some photos of my failed
transmission internal swap. You may want to
contact Kevin (asian312) on the message board or Alex at
www.dentsport.com.
They have put their transmissions together, but have yet
to run them. Eric Phlebani also has been reported
to have done the swap, but I have not met anyone who has
successfully contacted him. I might try it again
once this car gets somewhat reliable. |
Lets Get Started! |
Dad and I started taking apart the transmissions today.
We are really winging it with a little aid from the FSM.
It's pretty scary so far. We don't have all the
special tools that are required and some of the large
nuts we have had to take off with a pipe wrench.
I'll be pretty excited when this all comes together.
Until then its just a scary bitch. Here are some
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Which one of these transmissions is the Starion and
which is the D50? Let me give you a hint.
The bottom one is the Starion transmission. Now
lets see if I can point out some obvious differences.
Listed in they're order on the shafts...
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Gear |
D50 |
Starion |
4th (1:1) |
0.64 |
0.72 |
3rd |
0.61 |
0.69 |
2nd |
0.61 |
0.69 |
1st |
0.78 |
0.78 |
Reverse |
0.64
straight cut
non-syncronized |
0.81
diagonal cut
synchronized |
5th |
forgot to measure
this |
forgot to measure
this |
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As you can see the gears are wider in
the Starion transmission. Wider might equal
stronger. Also, there
are different bearings in both transmissions. This
becomes the big issue with the gut transfer. Also
the transmission case is slightly different. This
is why you need to make spacers. More
updates before I edit this down if I ever get done.
The Starion bearings are tappered while the D50's are
sleaved ball bearings. Another difference is the
front cover on the transmission. Because of the
bearings there are different covers. Don't know if
I'll get away with using the pivot for the shifter fork.
Probably won't. Lots of differneces... mainly with
the bearings. I did find a site selling rebuild
kits that shows the different types of bearings.
http://www.drivetrain.com/mistsubishKM4_5RWD.html
Time to beg for help.
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Its too early to give a step by step
description of how to do the swap. Right now we
are just winging it. The easy things that I have
learned how to do though I can talk about. To
remove the tail casing off of the transmission you need
to use a punch to remove the spring peg from the shifter
mechanism and undo the bolts around the transmission.
It pops right off and its really easy. For the
front of the transmission you just have to undo the
bolts around its perimeter and pull it apart. With
just a little bit of balls you can do this and have a
usable transmission to use with the 2.0. |
Starion Tranny
(It looks like an awesome machine gun) |
The strength of the transmission internals has not been
proven to me. I hope it is worth all the trouble
and what might lead to spending lots of money. If
you want to try it out it is possible to take the tail
end off of the transmission so you can have the longer
shifter extension, and you can take off the front of the
case so that you can have the hydraulic clutch fork
pivot. Then you would need to cut a hole for the
fork in the bellhousing and weld on some holes to bolt
the slave cylinder to. Might be a good thing to
try one day. If I destroy this transmission I'll
probably use this method for a fast recovery.
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The Ends :-D |
UPDATE:
I have given up on the transmission for the time
being. It was too frustrating... Alex, Ryan and
Kevin all say that they have done it, but neither of
them has run it down the road yet. Then again I
haven't run mine down the road yet so who knows. |
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