Project Zero G Forums ~ View topic - bellhousing development for T-56 trans

I been away for a while setting up new equipment

I scored a CNC 2 hp bridgeport from some guy named ' Silky' at the BP gas station down on the corner, it was a gift from his god parents in Iowa, but he didnt really want to keep it and he had no receipt so he couldnt take it back to the store, I traded him a bag of magic beans for it

Then, DSM pilot ( rocket man) found this T56 trans on Ebay from a guy in South Carolina who was laid off from NASA and is a shipping clerk for UPS

As you can see there is a water shortage in South carolina so he couldnt wash off the first or second layer of grime before he shipped it

what a shame, it could have save about 50% in frieght by being lighter

from this fine example of custom made DETRIOT steel I shall make a bellhousing so the you all can have six speeds to propel you to the road of glory and drifter fame

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Wow bill thats great, i will be contacting you for one of these, i wanted to have a t56 in my car it will be so kick ass Very Happy

Bill, there are multiple T56s.

Make sure you know which one it is you'll be using.

I recommend the one from the LT1 Fbodies; they're more plentiful, easier to find, and cheaper and they still have about the same tq. rating.

I know to run an LT1 T56 on an LS1 you need a bellhousing swap, new slave cylinder, and input shaft.

P.S. glad to see 6speed development taking place for these!!

Keep up the good work in making RWD an easy viable option for the 4g engines!

Holy crap that thing is huge! I thought my R154 was big.

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Sir Post A Lot Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 894

cool ne wprojct. Should be a awesome transmission. I'll stick with the r154 though Smile

I dont need the double od.

Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

I am all for it as long as it is for the LT1 based T56 and a narrow block. Will it compatable with the fidanza flywheel?

Too Much Time on His Hands Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 492

bill you are the fucking man. this makes me want to go start another rwd project just to say it has a 4g and a 6 speed Laughing

this trans is from a 96 Camaro. The 93 - 97 camaro LT1 T-56

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

Bill do you have an ETA??? Just asking...

Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

it would probably be best to figure on making the tunnel removable, becuase this trans is gonna take up some room. But I would recommend a removable tunnel for any trans set up anyway.
the input shaft is high in the T-56, if you can get the engine lower in the engine bay, you should be ok with an original tunnel

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 34

Maaan! I feel like a kid waiting for that feast on turkey day!! Mmmmmmmmmmmmm 6 speed.... extra gravy please! Laughing

about that trip, the beer truck will be here on that Thursday,Hank Williams and the band will be dropping bye on Saturday and lindsay Lohan dont know for sure if she will make it but Paris is 'in' for sure, see ya soon Very Happy

Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

Update Bill? This will be the determining factor on if I sell my colt or not.

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 13

+1 I want one ASAP! Very Happy

Addict Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 124

those transmissions are expensive

Sir Post A Lot Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 894

Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

They are not that expensive. I sell them at my yard used for 1400.00. Besides, I likey the fast shifting low miles trans that can hold power vs the clunky 400,000 mile toyota one.

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Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 195 Location: Ventura,CA

what is considered expensive?

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Sir Post A Lot Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 894

t154/w58 is cheap Razz

t56 is expensive, wish I could afford one Razz

It's like me deciding if I really wanted a getrag with my 1jz or just stick with the r154. I be cheap so i stuck with the r154 and bought a fancy haltech instead.

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 34

You just gotta look for deals! I got mines for $860 plus $175 shipped to Bill, altho shipping cost the guy $238.00 Laughing

He took a bath on that one! It woulda been alot more expensive to ship it to me since i'm 2000 more miles away.

Addict Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 124

I already went wide block is this gonna be narrow or what?

Sir Post A Lot Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 894

narrow, but you should be able to use chads g54b t56 setup for the wideblock g54b I'd think.

I have a feeling this is going to be a much cheaper solution than Chads setup. If you're wideblock you've got a few options. New people might want to consider narrowblocks more than we did a year ago.

Sir Post A Lot Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 894

not if you already have a built wideblock Laughing

btw, is there a narrow block 6 bolt 4g64? I was thinking maybe some of the early mitsu trucks might have them? I was thikning 4g64 4g63 crank for some good 2.1l goodness.

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 34

UPDATE,8/4/2007

I just got back from a breif vacation with my kids and grandkids, we rode motorcylces and run the dune buggy in northern Michigan for a while, we camp on Lake Superior in the upper peninsula of Michigan.
while I was up there I did some drawings on the T-56, I need to get a camera and I will be showing you what I am doing as I go along

Too Much Time on His Hands Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 355

somebody fix me up with n engine plate off a wide block and we will build a housing for that too with a T56

I'll get one to you in a few weeks. Is Paris Hilton still in?

Paris called, she's still 'in' she just doesnt know what to wear, I suggested something orange and maybe a number would be fine, she thought that was a cute idea and said not to worry she would give us a ride home from the party

hey? why aint you on vacation with your parents out west right now?

Got back wednesday. I'm still in party mode, but need to hunker down and get this car all pretty for the meet.

Too Much Time on His Hands Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 492

this is just a comparision on transmissions, the W-55 is on the left, the T 56 is in the canter and the R 154 is on the right

Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 195 Location: Ventura,CA

Hey Bill, won't the shifter be in the back seat on the t-56?

it all depends on the application, i found a couple of website that built remote shifters for the r 154, but mostly the was to make the shifter longer not shorter

basically what they did was to take the shaft that the shift lever bolts to and made it longer, then they welded up a housing

http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/~amh110/supra_in_volvo.htm

I could see bolting a shift finger on to the trans shift shaft and connecting a shift handle where ever you wanted it, this same system could go forward as well as back

Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 195 Location: Ventura,CA

thats cool, I was just curious after seeing the differance in the sizes of trannies.

Knowlege Seeker Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 34

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Addict Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 96

Update? You burning the midnight oil Twisted Evil

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I just have the first drawings done and I have made an identical input shaft so I can align the pieces, I ordered some material for the manual jig.

I been filling out a note book on how I want to arrainge the machine steps after the pattern is cast.

Right now I am building most of my R-154 housings to pay some bills